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    Replacing Stolen RRC CB

    Well I visited the long term local guru WACB in Newcastle St East Perth, who still has one of the best customer ethos/s I have ever come across.

    For my simple requirements and consistent with my brief not to scam the insurance co for a fair replacement, he suggested the remote head/standard microphone TX3100 as a robust option ($259 plus installation).
    My initial thoughts had been to supplement the insurance payout and get that ~$450 plus Oricom with the double listening capacity and a remote head and microphone controls.
    In the end, I don't need microphone controls - they would only confuse the navigator - and as long as I can scan and be part of a convoy, that's surely all I think I really need so I plan to bypass all the bells and whistles and KISS.
    Comments?
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    I've had a few over the years.
    Just pulled a TX3400(old timer 40ch) out of my brothers D2, and I used one myself for about 20 years-ish(originally installed in my 79 RRC) and moved from car to car as they came and went.

    For the D1 tho, I wanted to update the TX3400 so went with an Oricom UHF380. Good unit that it is, for what I wanted(scanning emergency channels and stuff) it came across as to complicated in some ways.
    The other thing that felt weird was the slightly flimsy quality of the microphone.
    Mic has controls and is the head unit.

    My impressions of it, and the "controls in the mic" system is that I'd never go back to an old system.

    A very short while back I replaced my Oricom with a newfangled GME XRS 370.
    Awesome(for my purposes tho)
    If you want the ability to set it up easily or if you want to scan and listen on other channels, this is the way to go.
    The app allows you to download the channel lists off the net, name them with an appropriate system and then upload them to the radio.
    So channel 351 on a normal scan list, becomes 'CFA Valhalla' on the XRS radio!

    A bit exy at about $500 for the radio alone!.
    Superb quality mic and controls tho. Far better than any other radio I've used/owned.
    We have TX4600's or 4400's in the trucks at work, and while the units seem to be nice, I'm not overly impressed by the mic unit.
    I don't think they'll be all that durable for some reason.
    Other GME observations are that on both the TX3400's I now have (my original and the one of of the D2 my bro just bought), the mics have the exact same issues where the plastic of the mic has deteriorated, and the coiled lead has frayed at both ends.

    XRS mic has a feeling of quality that is a few orders of magnitude higher tho. Only issue is that with all those electronics within, it is a bit on the heavy side. Not a major issue, but a point I noted.
    Oricom UHF380 is still a nice piece of kit tho. The lack of quality feel in the head unit is more about the feel rather than it feels like it's going to fall apart any time soon. button clicks and stuff.
    Time will tell, it went into bro D2 the other day.
    In terms of display(I have bad/failing short eyesight, so it's important to me) .. both head units are pretty easy to read.
    GME head unit is a bit easier to read when going through menus.
    For the Oricom I need to wear my +1 'Woolies' glasses to see the icons more clearly.
    In every day use tho, neither displays require that I wear the glasses, which would probably cause me to crash whilst driving!

    sorry for the long post.. but.
    You say that the next radio you get is to replace a stolen one from the RRC?(if I'm reading this right).
    If that's the case then, I suggest a radio like the Oricom/GME with the controls in the mic as the way to go next.
    I'm always worried about scumbags stealing stuff too, and to advertise that there's an uber radio in the car is something I'm going to avoid where I can as much as possible.
    What comes in the radio kit makes it a bit harder to make a neat install where you can quickly disconnect the head unit, but a simple and cheap additional ethernet connector is all that's needed.
    Install the radio unit somewhere hidden and run the cable under the dash/console with a small hole cut somewhere of your choosing.
    The cable is run to that point, and the hole is squared out so that the ethernet connector protrudes out of it by a few mm(maybe 5 or so)
    The radio head unit is then easily connected/disconnected as needed.

    If you want I can post a pic of my install to show you what I mean.

    It's neat and simple, and takes about 2 mins to dismount the massive GME aerial off the bullbar leaving only the spring base as the clue that I have a UHF .... somewhere

    Hope that helps in some way.

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    Cheers - very comprehensive response and some real food for thought.
    I do have a couple of sheckels hidden under the bed that I can use for an upgraded version if warranted. I like the idea of being able to scan plus listen to the convoy or truckies while travelling along.
    My CB man said that one brand had gone right off - won't shame here, but GME and icom both got a clean bill of health, as did one other, but cant remember which. Will check out your GME XRS 370 and a pic of your setup would be great - good thinking.
    Cheers Gavin
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    Hi Gavin

    You won't wrong with either GME or Icom. A few years back I fitted a remote head Uniden 80 channel uhf in Charlie. At the time it was the only one with a speaker in the handset and had a reasonable feature set, but not all the bells and whistles. I've been very happy with it's performance, but that said I only use it for in convoy comms and channel 40, on the road, for wide load, road works and fiscally debilitating trap warnings.

    Back then Icom were considered the best followed by GME, then Uniden and finally the rest, things may have changed.

    In addition to WACB, Prestige communications in Malaga are also worth a look as they can be a bit cheaper.

    Cheers

    Steve

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    [QUOTE=Rok_Dr;2634547]

    Steve - Back then Icom were considered the best followed by GME, then Uniden and finally the rest, things may have changed.

    Gavin - Still the same order. Apparently the other player has gone to the dogs abit if the industry comments are to be believed.

    Steve - In addition to WACB, Prestige communications in Malaga are also worth a look as they can be a bit cheaper.

    Gavin - Ta, but have had excellent support from WACB for years, so will stick with them, unless something really goes pear shaped. Customer loyalty may be (justifiably) dying in some areas, but I still have my plumber of 40 years, and access to my mechanic of 35 years.
    Cheers
    D4 MY16 TDV6 - Cambo towing magic, Traxide Batteries, X Lifter, GAP ID Tool, Snorkel, Mitch Hitch, Clearview Mirrors, F&R Dashcams, CB
    RRC MY95 LSE Vogue Softdash "Bessie" with MY99 TD5 and 4HP24 transplants
    SADLY SOLD MY04 D2a TD5 auto and MY10 D4 2.7 both with lots of goodies

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    Went for a few days out into the high country with the kids for a bit of camping, brother loved the controls of the 'all in mic' type radio now.
    the remote heads types are still good, as the unit can be mounted somewhere easily read .. but nothing beats having it all in the mic.

    If you think you may use the scanning, then I can't see much better unit than the new XRS from GME.
    As you plan your trip, all you need to do is use the app to find any appropriate radio channels you may think could be handy for a given area and upload them to the radio.

    But, in saying that, removing power from the radio(I changed my start battery!) loses all the saved radio channel data.
    The partial upside is that it's relatively easy to program all that data again via the app.
    If the radio is capable of simply scanning the airwaves and stopping on whatever channel puts out a strong enough signal .. no biggie.
    Some radios need to be configured to listen into the receive only channels.
    And the last thing I'd want is some of the random garbage you hear over the UHF almost all of the time anyhow.
    So, if I'm heading out to Horsham(Vic) and I want to catch any CFA channels in that area, in the app, I'd specify the <FIRE> channels in the list of channel types, set the location to Horsham, and it lists 70 possible channels in that CFA zone.
    The info shows the frequency and approx distance(from where you are).
    The only limitation of this system is that while you have 400 possible listen only channels, they have to be grouped in 8 different zones, and limited to 50 channels per zone.
    So that eg. above with 70 channels in Horsham, I have to lose 20 of them.
    You could then use those 20 in another zone, but with the limited info displayed, it'd be tedious to add the 20 missed channels into another zone without filtering through them all.
    This limitation is actually due to the design of the phone(being small and touch screen based), rather than the design limitation being in the app!
    If they had a PC based app that you could configure which then syncs with the phone based app, I'm guessing that the entire process could be easier to work with and save.
    Save different configs as needed, for the areas you're going to visit.
    You can also control the (UHF) radio via the app too.

    The whole system is pretty cool to have access too, a bit geeky(I like gadgets ) and could be handy.

    We were worried about the possibility of fire bans on our first night due to the, no radio(AM/FM) reception in the little valley we camped in too.
    Had I not changed my starter battery and lost power to the GME, I'd have had the Jameison/Mansfield CFA channels loaded in the unused zones.

    ps. the zones are nameable too, so you don't have to rely on some cryptic memory recall system to remember which zone you need to be on to listen in to any of the channels you.
    ie. One my zones was named to Jameison, features that make the UHF easy to use.
    The Oricom on the other hand needed some cryptic button pushing routine to unlock the potential to listen into listen only channels.
    From there you were on your own as to what those channels turned out to be too.

    The only thing I'd like for them to change is the limitations of their zone system.
    I'd rather just a total of 400 channels, and with however many zones they prefer to configure, but the ability to set a selection of channels of your choosing into a zone.
    ie. so in Zone 1 I'd have 70 channels(for Horsham), in Zone 2 I'd have many 120(for Mansfield) .. and so on.
    Like as you can configure your contacts in your smart phone in groups of your choosing.
    The radio is firmware upgradeable(via the app), so here's hoping that this limitation could be fixed easily.

    If I were to rate this radio out of 100, I'd give it a 99 any day of the week.
    That 1 lost point is only due to the 50 channel zone limitation.
    The radio body is typical GME solid.
    But then again no more solidly made than the Oricom body.
    Oricom body just beats it in that it's slightly smaller .. fitted more easily into the cavity above the glovebox in my D1.
    Oricom was harder to fit tho in that it uses the old style plastic headed bolt to tighten the body in the holder, whereas the GME uses the slide lock system(easier).
    Neither system is beter nor worse than the other for durability tho(that I've yet experienced).
    mic/head unit tho is a different matter.
    In terms of build quality, if the GME mic/head is a 100, the Oricom would come in at maybe a 50. it gets a few points for the ability to change colour!
    The slightly extra weight in the GME mic isn't noticable at all on the drive up and some drives about the area.
    Chatting to brother, and one other car, I always leave it on my lap with mic just touching the seat base.
    Smaller font of the GME display isn't as nice during the day, but the quality of the display is nicer at night.

    Hopefully some pics of the way I installed it in my D1.
    drivers side centre console mounted:


    obviously the radio mounted.


    radio moved, but cable connected. I'm thinking of an alternate place for the mic holder. Note also that this one is the Oricom supplied mic clip. GME types are a plastic two piece design.


    That is the ethernet plug I used, instead of the cheap crapo type that the manufacturers supply in the box.
    You can buy the manufacturer type(below)at a PC parts place for about $1, and they are crap. I've used them before for ethernet cabling and they get loose over time and you get tied of having to constantly re plug the connector in properly.
    I use ethernet port plugs of the type that are used in wall installations.
    Not the type with the bare wire connections, the plug to plug type.
    They have a small catch that helps locate the plug securely.
    Don't have a pic of the plug(sorry) as I used my last one for my brothers Oricom install.



    The problem with the wart type of plug is that you either have a wart looking thing stuck to some part of the interior of your car.
    Either that, or you have to locate the wart somewhere inaccessible, or the mic/head unit somewhere close to the wart.
    I just wanted the easiest way for me to unclip the mic and store it out of sight if I think the area I'm parked in is car thief central!

    Great UHF, Great quality, great to use(and configure for the closet geek! ), just a bit expensive and one little limitation that should really be sorted in a firmware update.

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