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    Another good write-up on the change can be found here:

    http://www.gme.net.au/epirb/cospas_changes.php

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    If you do get an EPIRB be carefull were you put it, without going into my job, I heard of one getting knocked around and getting turned on, bit of a horrible feeling driving around the counrty with the thing going off. Another good thing is an SSB CB we got caught at Cordilo Downs Station with the rest of the party heading towards Birdsville radio'd to some old guys talking in Perth got them to phone relay a message to the local boys in blue to then they phoned the local copper in Birdsville to inform the party of what was going on. AM CB useless out there, UHF only good if there's repeaters around and Sat ph was a hit & miss normal ph just a paper weight.
    Always tell someone before you head of in the distance of your timings have to play it safe sometimes.
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    The problem with EPIRB is that it gets one response, a full scale search and rescue, and those people are not happy if it's a breakdown without people in imminent danger to life and limb.

    Sat phones can be (are) unreliable, because of the lack of satellites over Australia, valleys and if anyone knows about SatTV thick clouds destroy the signal.

    Spend your money on some real HF Radio equipment, Codan or Barrett and join VKS737, which will give you much more reliable communication and they don't mind arranging for spare parts etc. The other good thing is that other VKS737 members may be near by, listening in and possibly able to help out.

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    G'day Lots-a-Landies,

    I intend to get a good quality HF, however for that I want / need to get my radio license first Which I will be doing, just not right now


    I understand that EPIRB's are for life-threatening emergencies only, however my first aid instructor raised a very valid point when relying solely on radio's. Hypothetical situation: You are out and about and in the course of your journey you roll your 4wd in the middle of nowhere, in the process snapping off your radio antennas.... as of that moment the radio's aren't much good You have food and water for x days (on the assumption the water container wasn't punctured) and wait for that long for someone to come past, but if they don't want do you do?

    Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that will happen & I'm not saying there aren't ways around it - all I'm saying is that I want the facility to cover as many options as possible. Yes an EPIRB is a be-all-and-end-all danger-warning-will-robinson piece of equipment, however it should still be considered a valuable piece of equipment to take

    I too am not keen on Sat. phones. They're expensive, they're point-to-point (whereas HF are - as you say - broadcast so someone much closer may hear and come to your aid), and they're finicky.. but it's handy to have as many options as possible, you never know which one is gonna be needed on the day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly_Adams
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    I intend to get a good quality HF, however for that I want / need to get my radio license first ................ You are out and about and in the course of your journey you roll your 4wd in the middle of nowhere, in the process snapping off your radio antennas.... as of that moment the radio's aren't much good You have food and water for x days (on the assumption the water container wasn't punctured) and wait for that long for someone to come past, but if they don't want do you do?.............
    Grizzly

    Sorry for the long delay between posts.

    Just a couple of points, if you join VKS 737 for HF comms, you don't need a licence or more correctly you are an authorised user on a licenced network.

    In an emergency, you are permitted to communicate using any available communications device with or without a licence.

    EPIRBS can not tell you what to do to keep people alive while waiting for help to arrive.

    If you roll over and break your antenna, you should get out your emergency long wire antenna and connect it to your set and to some high point in the environment, even if it is just the wheels of your upturned rig. If you don't have an emergency long wire antenna, the instructions how to make one are in the information from VKS737 you usually carry with the set. If you don't have the information connect to any long bit of wire - even a fence and see if you can raise someone on the 100 or so channels that can be programmed into the set.

    EPIRBS have just as much chance of failing as good quality HF equipment, Codan, Barrett or Q'Mac. Instead of EPIRB's many people carry a second portable HF set, (what they sometimes call lunchbox because thats what they look like). These are small, have their own battery supply and long wire antenna and take loads of punishment.

    Don't get me wrong, EPIRBS are a very valuable piece of equipment, and worth having as an adjunt to your HF radio. In fact worthwhile having for very remote travel and at least one in any group for less remote travel but it's not necessary to have one in each vehicle.

    Regards
    Diana
    Last edited by Lotz-A-Landies; 2nd September 2006 at 07:12 PM.

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