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    CB protocol

    Hi,
    I'm intending getting a UHF radio (GME) for trips 'outback' etc and was wondering what you guy's did when making or recieving calls. I have used tow-way radios at work for many years, where you are required to use a call sign etc, but i've never used a CB before. I guess if you are in convoy you have a pre arranged call sign ?

    I have been reading about 'Selcall' where you have an identifiing no., do clubs etc use this ?

    It's not the sort of thing I would want to use generally, and I dont think I will be giving it the 'breaker-breaker' stuff to every passing 4x4, but It's a usefull thing to have isnt it ?.

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    rubber duckies went out with am. on UHF you just speak english.
    just be polite & please don't swear, it gets irritating at best.
    i usually just have it on 40 (truck) listening for & giving road reports, unless in a group situation & wanting a quiet channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldzook View Post
    rubber duckies went out with am. on UHF you just speak english.
    just be polite & please don't swear, it gets irritating at best.
    i usually just have it on 40 (truck) listening for & giving road reports, unless in a group situation & wanting a quiet channel.
    The swearing is so bad sometimes that I can't run it with the kids in the car

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    The swearing is so bad sometimes that I can't run it with the kids in the car
    That's most of the time. It's one of the reasons that when I hear adverts on radio purporting to be by truckies that I laugh. They sound nothing like the truckies I hear on UHF.

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    UHF is mostly used in local mode ( ie simplex ) for car to car comms up to 5km or so. Generally in the country you can find a channel between say Ch10-30 without too many dickheads on it and you can work uninterrupted. Occassionally a farmer will come on and ask you to move channels because they are using it for a farm channel. Ch10 is suppossed to be the 4WDers "calling" channel and Ch18 is generally used by caravanners. Ch40 is the truckies channel. Ch5 is reserved for emergencies. This is all unofficial although I read a post somewhere where on here some of these channels are now set aside for specific use.

    It's when you get on to the repeater channels that you get the *******. The repeaters in the country are not too bad but the city ones are generally not useable because of the language.

    You shouldn't use country repeater channels ( 1-8 duplex ) for car to car work if you can use simplex. Repeaters are good for making calls for assistance etc (Usually someone will be monitoring ), or if you want to talk to someone many k's away. You can tell if a repeater is available in the area by going duplex and switching through channels 1-8, giving a press of the PTT button on each one. If you hit a repeater you will get a squelch "tail" come back, sometimes it comes back with a voice or morse ident. for the repeater. Its a good idea if you are in a remote area to see if any repeaters are available, just in case you need help and the mobile phone doesn't work. Most of the repeaters are set up by volunteers so there is no guarantee it will be working when you want it.
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    Repeaters

    take a look at this http://www.tropinet.com/uhf-repeaters/

    yes unfortunatley the channel most likely to have best road info also happens to get hailed with some pretty offensive stuff. I'm not a wowser but some of the vomit well it just gets plain old.
    one of these days i will mount an external on the b pillar so SWMBO doesn't have to put up with it.

    for selcall; AFAIK the sets have to be specifically programmed to each other so they basically act as two-ways.

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    If using in convoy a unit with group and open scanning is useful. You all pick a channel that is clear (although often you'll change on the move as you come across other traffic on the channel) then with your group scanning you can also monitor 40, most useful on the highway. You can scan all 40 but often there is enough chatter between the channels you can miss out on your convey message or calling you.

    Have to agree on the swearing being a pain, and also those who wish to "share" their "taste" in music (or are they having trouble with their engines, could explain some of the noise!).

    Has anyone else noticed the number of businesses' who are now using the channels (actually illegal, they are reserved frequencies for non commercial use)we had a courier company close to Adelaide get shirty because we were using "their" channel. Needless to say they were promptly reminded if they wish to use it for commercial purposes they needed to pay for their own unique frequencies. We would have been on there for less than a minute and weren't aware they we using it until then

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    UHFs are open public radio channels and can not be dedicated to a particular use in the normal frequency band. Generally most people leave 5 alone as an emergency channel though. Some of the farmers think that they own the channel they use, but dont.
    You can buy specific UHF or VHF frequncy licences for deicated communications and this should be done by most med-big business. Many mining companies scrimp and get upset when you are using the same channel and have a similar attitude to farmers. We as a company have our own dedicated frequencies to avoid this. Most of the time when someone tells me I am on a private channel on normal UHF I have a laugh and then tell them to naff off.
    The swearing is a joke and means quite often I have to turn it down or off with kids in the car. We all make slips but repeated swearing is not called for.
    Generally in convoy we try and run on a quiet channel.
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    With Ya. Same problem although not always just with the kids in the car. I'm no prude but sometimes the banter and language are rediculous.

    I usually tell them it is not a "private" channel then change because we have better things to do. Hopefully if enough tell them they will get it.

    I dug the old AM out the shed and am in the process of reinstalling it. Have a friend who is in to the whole radio scene and he was saying that a lot of the "idiots" have now left the AM and gone to UHF now it is cheaper than the AM's. Reckon's generally you get more of the enthusiasts using it again so thought I may as well fit again!

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    As everyone here said the losers and the language on UHF these days is ridiculous, and I am no puritan by any stretch of the imagination.
    I don't have it on anymore with the little ones in the car, far too much.

    There is no protocol on public channels anymore and very little respect either. Occassionally good craic but

    For some old school radio comms lessons, I reccommend the following:
    Aust. army training manual radio comms
    The movies:
    Smokey and the Bandit movies
    Convoy


    Ok, Focker OUT
    Last edited by FenianEel; 16th February 2007 at 03:11 PM. Reason: can't spell

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