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    Reveresing Cameras

    I know a few of you have fitted reversing cameras by now, and I have a few questions :

    Are the cheap Chinese imports really weather resistant, or do they fail over time & water exposure?

    Are there any spots where you mounted your camera, that in retrospect you wouldn't do again?

    Are there any spots where you mounted the screen, that in retrospect you wouldn't do again?

    Has anyone used the clip on mirror screen?

    Do these weigh the mirror down or fall off in heavy offroad driving?


    I'm thinking of setting up a camera in the Defender. A mate working for Uniden can get me a Schneider camera / monitor which is well reputed, but at almost 3 times the price of an ebay bargain it seems a bit steep.

    Will I regret the cheap option?
    or has it been ok for those who've fitted it?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Don't they fit rear vision mirrors to vehicles any more?

    Well, Okay, the stock Land Rover mirrors are utter crud, I just bought a $40 mini truck style set. Bloody beautiful rear vision.
    I can just about see my tow ball in the buggers.

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    The Chinese / Taiwan cameras etc are exactly what is being sold here in the kits at up to 4 x the price. I got an lcd screen from China and was the same as what some retailers were selling for 4x the price and this one had more connection options. Only took a week to get here to.
    I will be buying one of the number plate reversing cameras off ebay soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shorty943 View Post
    Don't they fit rear vision mirrors to vehicles any more?

    Well, Okay, the stock Land Rover mirrors are utter crud, I just bought a $40 mini truck style set. Bloody beautiful rear vision.
    I can just about see my tow ball in the buggers.
    The convex Defender mirrors are excellent, and much more rugged than any truck style mirror, with a really strong spring in the arm and no vibrations, even when in a SIII over corrugations. However my Defender has CIA spec dark tint, thanks to the previous owner and the rear wheel + light + tool bracket (sometimes). Also with 3 kids, the back stacks over the windows on a trip.

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    Beware

    My suggestion would be to keep clear of most of the vehicle cameras listed on ebay. Your concerns are well founded.

    First tip is it is essential to get a CCD not a CMOS type. Second a good CCD will operate in low light and have better image quality than a cheaper CCD relying on LED's. Budget around $200.00 or 3 X ebay prices.

    My last install was Neltronics CCD Mini ....a reasonable sized Australian supplier with a network and a guarantee.

    http://www.neltronics.com.au/rSysCams.htm

    A good installation position especially those with trailers is mounting off/below the upper rear door stop light housing (housing can be used to locate in any line suppressors) and running power/video leads out of door using door wiring conduit. Seperately switching camera in addition to wiring into reversing light circuit is handy for those times you want rear camera vision without having to engage reverse gear.
    Last edited by cockie55; 13th August 2007 at 07:57 PM.

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    Well I have just bought one of evil bay. I did get the cmos with night vision and a 5.6 inch screen. All up $147. Will let you know once it's fitted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cockie55 View Post
    ...First tip is it is essential to get a CCD not a CMOS type. ...
    What's the difference between CMOS & CCD in simple lay terms?

    Thanks.

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    I got one of each off fleabay. The camera stuffed up after a few months, I pulled it apart as I had nothing to lose & found the "O" ring distorted probably from the assembly line, water got in as it was externally fitted - I binned it and bought another for $65.00 the same unit and its fine so far.
    The bloody on off button for the screen is gone now, I can bypass it or get a techie to swap it for another button thats not needed - maybe the radio button. I tried a couple of guys that twigg playstations ( at the market) but its a microswitch and they did'nt seem interested.
    I could always re route the wires to an external switch.
    Overall I would say go for it, me and electronics dont get on well anyway.

    Michael 2.
    Here is your answer.

    CCD – Charge Coupled Device: one of the two main types of image sensors used in digital cameras. When a picture is taken, the CCD is struck by light coming through the camera's lens. Each of the thousands or millions of tiny pixels that make up the CCD convert this light into electrons. The number of electrons, usually described as the pixel's accumulated charge, is measured, then converted to a digital value. This last step occurs outside the CCD, in a camera component called an analog-to-digital converter.
    CMOS – Complementary Metal-Oxide Semiconductor: one of the two main types of image sensors used in digital cameras. Its basic function is the same as that of a CCD. CMOS sensors are currently found in only a handful of digital cameras.
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...y/default.mspx

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    I have an ebay night vision camera but haven't installed it yet although I've played around with different positions. The best posn so far is inside attached to the centre stop light where it can pickup kids & objects in close. Its not perfect though, as it can't see close behind the spare wheel. Mounting it in the bumper wont do the job I want.
    I might power it from accessories and just switch the monitor to video when req'd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael2 View Post
    The convex Defender mirrors are excellent, and much more rugged than any truck style mirror, with a really strong spring in the arm and no vibrations, even when in a SIII over corrugations. However my Defender has CIA spec dark tint, thanks to the previous owner and the rear wheel + light + tool bracket (sometimes). Also with 3 kids, the back stacks over the windows on a trip.

    No wonder you need a camera mate.
    The only thing missing is the roo on the roof rack.

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