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    Scratch disk options

    My pc it is configurated with 2 500gb Sata disks in Raid and I need a separated scratch disk for photo processing.
    The tower have Sata ports inside and Sata and Firewire outside.
    An external Sata HDD would be as fast and efficient as the one inside or not?
    An external firewire HDD it is as fast as a Sata HDD or not?
    OS is a Win XP
    Your inputs are appreciated.
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    Arthur

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    I bought an external HDD docking cradle with SATA extension lead from Jaycar.
    It plugs straight into the MB next to the other SATA drive cables.
    With the Quantum Fireball, or the WDD Caviar fitted into the cradle, it behaves just like another disk mounted internally, and doesn't seem to be any slower at all.
    I use it for storing rendering temp files, so it would be like your scratch disk setup.
    I haven't had any experience with Firewire, so can't help there sorry.

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    Unless it's Firewire 800 it will be about the same as USB2. Even Firewire 800 is slow compared to Sata speeds. I'd look at internal or external Sata.

    Did you see if you could put an SSD in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmdigital View Post
    Unless it's Firewire 800 it will be about the same as USB2. Even Firewire 800 is slow compared to Sata speeds. I'd look at internal or external Sata.

    Did you see if you could put an SSD in?
    The SSD cost about $400 to expensive for my purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    An external Sata HDD would be as fast and efficient as the one inside or not?
    yes eSATA is same speed as SATA, it's just an extension lead, more or less


    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    An external firewire HDD it is as fast as a Sata HDD or not?
    firewire = faster than USB1 and in practice USB2
    eSATA wipes the floor with both of them

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    i forgot to mention if you can get hold of USB3 in theory its faster than eSATA or firewire.
    You can buy motherboards now with USB3 now sure about the availability of add-in cards though, even then I'm not 100% sure the motherboard it was put it would handle the through put.
    bottom line go for eSATA now, if your in the market for a new motherboard go USB3

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    for the cost i would dump 2 x 500gb disks in Raid 0 inside the case and be done with it... you should get good read and write speeds and of course you dont need any kind of data security for a scratch disk. 500's are about $60 each at the mo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5teve View Post
    for the cost i would dump 2 x 500gb disks in Raid 0 inside the case and be done with it... you should get good read and write speeds and of course you dont need any kind of data security for a scratch disk. 500's are about $60 each at the mo...

    Steve
    Raid is very good to protecting the data but not fast enough for scratch disk, for that reason I am considering using a stand alone HDD for scracth disk and live all my data in the exsisting pair of 500gb Raid Sata HDD

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    Incorrect..sorry


    Raid is in several levels Raid 0 or striping as its known is rubbish at protecting data but you get performance closing in on N x single disk where N is the number of disks. so if a single disk writes at 60mb/s the raid 0 will give close to 120mb/s with 2 disks / 180mb/s with 3 etc etc etc

    Protection happens when you use Raid 1 or Raid 5 & 6 Raid 1 is directly mirrored, ie 2 disks gives 1 disk capacity but it mirrors data to each disk. Raid 5 and 6 uses parity data to spread disk content across multiples of disks and give good performance + redundancy capacity is N-1 x single disk so 8 x 1tb disks in raid 5 have 7tb of data space roughly

    I had 3 years designing raid storage systems so i do know what im on about

    You might want to check what raid level (1 or 0) you are running on your system as if you are running raid 0 you are risking your data every second.

    Thanks

    Steve

    Ps this is one of my designs http://www.nexsan.com/satabeast.php

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    Steve I do not know about hardware at all so I appreciate your inputs
    My system is Intel based with 2 500gb WD HDD.
    The RAID/AHCI is an Intel ICH8R/9R/10R.
    The 500Gb HDD have 2 partitions.
    C: for the OS and the software
    D: for the data
    Beacause the data and the photo processing software it is in the same HDD I believe that the system operates to slow by having the scratch disc in the same HDD.
    I was under the impression that if I have the scratch disc separated from the software the processing will be faster.
    Also by having a separated scratch disc I can store on it the files "in progress" there fore minimaze the fragmentation.
    Many times I upload 100 images of 25mb in raw each plus 70mg in tiff and then duplicate, transfer and delete some of them.
    Many time I processing files of 300mg and the Intel Core Duo E6850 3.0 Ghz take up to 3 minutes or more to do a task.
    This tasks was done faster in the old PC with less power.
    Because I am using Win XP it is not use to have more than the 4GB ram that the board have on it.

    I would appreciate if you can suggest how to go about to increase the speed.

    Cheers
    Arthur

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