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    Xul,

    This is where user requirements come into play. Not everyone has the same needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mowog View Post
    Thats the point I am trying to make.

    They are both good systems and it simply comes down to what your needs are.
    Exactly, I used to look after a number of dual environment commercial entities running both PC and Mac and for years pooh poohed Mac's as a solar powered propeller head armadillo hat option because i found it weird and unfamiliar and yet played with AIX and HP_UX machines all the time.

    And then I bought a Mac as an experiment, a cheap $100 PPC eMac, upgraded to 1 gig of ram with a new DVD burner, bought a legit copy of OS X 10.4 and started from there.

    It was initially my Wife's machine and used on the internet for mail, blogging and so on.
    Then I loaded Gimp and later Seashore, VLC and Xee so I could do stuff on the Mac that I was doing on my IBM Notebook and as I became more and more familiar with OS X and I realised that it was as close to a mainstream GUI Unix as id ever get.

    I still have that machine, im on it now actually and I also have a Windows 7 Mini notebook (Intel Atom) I use and Ive got to say that if Apple had remained on the PPC processor path instead of going to Intel then id probably be a full convert to the Mac way but with things having gone the direction they did?

    My next Mac will be a second hand G4 or 5 PPC powerMac.

    I did recently play with one of the new Power Macs and it was very pretty but fairly close to a PC so I couldn't really see the point in buying one and went Windows 7 instead.

    However it is very much horses for courses so if you feel the need to explore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony66_au View Post
    I realised that it was as close to a mainstream GUI Unix as id ever get.
    That is probably because it is. Unix that is. Certified and everything.

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    Which is why its so much fun I guess, and what a lot of people dont realise is that Unix is "the standard", the OS that everyone copied including Windows although its a lot less obvious since Windows NT.

    Either way I don't know why I didn't do this years ago.

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    I will point out though Mowog that the 'myths' you are playing with could be more likely referred to as 'urban myths' as they do have a substantial footing in reality but just embellished.

    You are comparing the latest mac with the latest offering system from windows. Now continue doing that experiment back over the years and see how much of a 'myth' it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw View Post

    You are comparing the latest mac with the latest offering system from windows. Now continue doing that experiment back over the years and see how much of a 'myth' it is

    Everything is subjective
    There is truth in what you say. However I dont see to many people down grading their Mac's or PC's to older hardware.

    I think the "current truth" for a given quality/configuration a PC presents a compelling value for money argument. The Mac's do have brillant displays and you do pay for that.

    Going forward there will be room for both in my kit.

    The MacBook Pro will become my Travel PC replacing my Toshiba in that role. My Toshiba is my workday laptop as I need a Windows based PC for my actual real job.

    However for my Desktop System I just dont see the value in buying a Mac Pro, When I can get the same power/quality/functionality(for me) at half the cost.

    I dont buy off the self PC's I look for the parts and spec a good system that way.

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    a good graphic artist using the same software on a mac will outproduce what they can do on a pc many times over using the same software.

    there is a reason why so many use it... apart from the perceived **** factor.

    but for the average joe blow with limited knowledge your right there is little difference per see and falls in to the realms of a ****ing competition..
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    Main problem with the Mac is that all the Mac users keep telling me their Mac's are better than my $280 Samsung laptop, the Mac users often telling me this with an evangelistic zeal for the Macs.

    Also some applications I want to run, e.g. E-sword do not give support for Mac users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnF View Post
    Main problem with the Mac is that all the Mac users keep telling me their Mac's are better than my $280 Samsung laptop, the Mac users often telling me this with an evangelistic zeal for the Macs.

    Also some applications I want to run, e.g. E-sword do not give support for Mac users.
    I agree that many Mac owners love to push how awesome their macs are over a cheaper PC, I don't agree with this though.

    You would be surprised what a Mac can run though, for example your program "E-Sword". This will run perfectly on a Mac through Crossover (best money I have ever spent on a program).

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    I think Windows 7 has helped the PC world a lot. The user account control stuff is a nod towards Unix, if not quite as robust. A step in the right direction though.

    I've been a PC user for a long time, and have moderate experience in Linux. I've used Mac's sparingingly but I find them harder to use because of my background in other systems. The GUI is obciously different, but the variances in terminal behaviour and the location of things makes that different enough to cause frustration too.

    Some things are a lot easier to do with a Mac if you know how to do them. I had one experience in trying to mount a *.dd file. The Mac wouldn't have a bar of mounting the image using the Linux method, and forums weren't much help. The fix ended up being so easy (yet completely counter to what you would do with Windows or Linux) that I was pulling my hair out.

    Horses for courses though. Windows 7 is my preferred desktop environment, and I have a Linux server for all the things I don't do on my desktop (web server etc). Works well for me

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