Thread: National Broadband Network (NBN) What do you know?

Quite right Tombie.
Before someone suggests that being able to use a smartphone makes today's kids smarter than oldies, let's see how they manage with my 94 year old mother's knitting needles, crochet hook or tatting bobbin.

Originally Posted by workingonit

Just to relate my elderly mother in laws experience getting NBN, if of value to anyone. Its second hand from my wife who tried to act as intermediary with Telstra.

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The mo in law has a failing heart and was without phone for about 5 days and stressed to the max. No amount of discussion on this issue made Telstra respond with urgency. The old dear is now in hospital emergency unit to be seen by cardiac today.

Mobile phone back up for mo in law?! We tried, but in her condition it was all too hard. There is a market for a simple mobile phone for the elderly.

Two things,,
Company called Vital Call make a medallion thats worn around the neck for falls,, press button, company rings, no answer? company call 000.
secondly AFTER this is purchased Telstra puts your number on a priority listing, both for installation and repairs.

Medallion company calls once a week to check system,

There is some hope for very fast speeds on copper:
nbn delivers 8Gbps over copper lines on XG.FAST trial | nbn - Australia's new broadband network

Originally Posted by SBD4

There is some hope for very fast speeds on copper:
nbn delivers 8Gbps over copper lines on XG.FAST trial | nbn - Australia's new broadband network

I've been advised that the best I can expect is only UP TO 12mbps fibre to the node.... my current broadband delivers at least 8mbps already and there's no guarantee of 12, let alone 25mpbs or more. And I have to pay $10 per month more for the privilege to avoid being cutoff. Fibre to the node is a total rort.

Originally Posted by MrLandy

I've been advised that the best I can expect is only UP TO 12mbps fibre to the node.... my current broadband delivers at least 8mbps already and there's no guarantee of 12, let alone 25mpbs or more. And I have to pay $10 per month more for the privilege to avoid being cutoff. Fibre to the node is a total rort.

Interesting isn't it. You would think that the copper line length in FTTN would be shorter than that of the current ADSL2 implementation and therefore expect it to perform much better with that and VDSL2 in its favour.

If you do not get the expected performance you pay for, get the retailer to troubleshoot the line to make sure there is no excessive noise on the line.

Attenuation is the other factor, if you are a long way from the node then there's nothing that can help (other than the obvious).

Also, in the period where people are still using ADSL/2 modems, the new VDSL2 modems will not be able to perform to their fullest potential. Once NBN switches off the old services for your area, the new VDSL2 modems will be able to operate properly hopefully providing better performance.

Here're a couple of graphs to show rule of thumb expectation of perormance vs distance:

Originally Posted by SBD4

Interesting isn't it. You would think that the copper line length in FTTN would be shorter than that of the current ADSL2 implementation and therefore expect it to perform much better with that and VDSL2 in its favour.

If you do not get the expected performance you pay for, get the retailer to troubleshoot the line to make sure there is no excessive noise on the line.

Attenuation is the other factor, if you are a long way from the node then there's nothing that can help (other than the obvious).

Also, in the period where people are still using ADSL/2 modems, the new VDSL2 modems will not be able to perform to their fullest potential. Once NBN switches off the old services for your area, the new VDSL2 modems will be able to operate properly hopefully providing better performance.

Here're a couple of graphs to show rule of thumb expectation of perormance vs distance:

Thanks for that. ...so looks like I must be approx 2000m from the nearest node, service provider is quoting best performance at 12mbps. Not much hope of faster speeds unless I move house or lay my own fibre!

Originally Posted by MrLandy

Thanks for that. ...so looks like I must be approx 2000m from the nearest node, service provider is quoting best performance at 12mbps. Not much hope of faster speeds unless I move house or lay my own fibre!

Get in your Landy, head bush. Who needs Land Lines

I rang telstra the other day to get two tablets we have to be able to receive emails. During the 8hr & 10 people I spoke to one of them started asking me my address . The next day I received an email on our desk top to say we were being connected to the NBN & a package would arive in the next couple of days & we had agreed to self connect & there were a number of other things we had agreed to & we would be connected on the 20th.
I rang Telstra to complain that nobody had spoken to us about NBN & there responce was but you agreed to it. We wanted to wait untill after Christmas & had 18months to connect . I know it will be a complete stuff up . Since we received the new box I have received 4 emails per day to tell me the box is in transit.
Also the thing I origionaly rang them for , they told me booth tablets were faulty which I bid not think was correct. I took the tablets to a different Telstra shop to the one I normaly use & they fixed the problem in 5minuts. Only taken 9 months countless visits to Telstra shop & calls to Telstra.
The last time Telstra changed us from ADSL to cable we had no internet for 6 months. The Ombusman gave them a deadline to fix it or change us back to ADSL & they missed the date by 2 days & had to wipe our account for 6 months.
I will wait & see but I am sure it will be a complete stuff up this time as well.