Thread: New Computer - Apple or PC ?

Originally Posted by roverrescue

Open source IS the way of the future people - for everything.

I personally think a hybrid future is more likely - and OSX is good example of a hybrid product.

The foundations of OSX are largely open source, but Apple keep the GUI related portions and other key technologies as closed source. It's pretty logical really - the unix based portions do benefit from the open source model, freeing up resources to work on areas that require innovative thought.

Apple - Open Source

cheers
Paul

Hi,

It depends what you want to do with your pc.. the key is knowing the apps that you use... Some of the problems I find for not running Windows include...

1. limited support for good mapping software suites. Updating firmware on GPS's etc is often not supported fully on other OS's.
2. Peripheral support.. the majority of peripherals are supported these days but if you do anything "interesting" then often the apple version doesn't exist. For example I have ECU programming and diagnostics software for my bike.. no use on an apple.

If your just browsing the net then there is little difference, however Windows is more secure these days despite what apple fanbois like to say.

Originally Posted by stewie110

however Windows is more secure these days despite what apple fanbois like to say.

gold...... need a bridge?

last month i had 100+ infected windows machines go thru my workshop with just about every major brand of antivirus / internet security installed failing to keep the box secured.

in the same period, one apple with software problems thru the door and it was self inflicted by the owner screwing with firewall settings.

nothing to do with being a fan, the reality speaks for itself.

a few things to say about that..

1. Windows is good for your business
2. No operating system will protect a stupid user from themselves. (not saying that users of this forum are stupid).
3. Windows still has ~95% of the market and of that around 50% is still XP (StatCounter Global Stats - Browser, OS, Search Engine including Mobile Market Share) (usual disclaimer, browsers don't always == complete user stats but most people get infected PC's from the internet so it gives an insight into what's running). Having such a large slice of the market means that it will show up more.. especially in relevance to point 2.
4. Believing the fluff that OSX is super secure because it's based on BSD is Apple's marketing machine at work. They have invested significantly in trying to improve the security in OSX Lion, yet it's too early to tell if that is going to actually make any difference... lets see at next years PWN2OWN etc.. the most common vector on OSX is itunes or Safari.. as IE is on Windows (or adobe flash/reader on either OS).

These points are not specifically aimed at discrediting you (or anyone for that matter) it's more about putting some light on the reality of owning a PC (and yes Mac's are just PCs with some marketing fluff).. If you search the net many of the people writing reviews will recommend apple products because of their shine etc.. being informed about the reality can only be a good thing. People get too caught up in the marketing and don't actually investigate the root causes on the street...

That's why we live in a toyota world hahaha..


p.s.. insert disclaimer.. i don't use windows or osx... i wear a tin foil had and hide in hole...

I just wonder how many of the infected machines are fault of the owner by ignoring the recomendation of NOD32 together with Malwarebytes runing on the background and setting them to do a scan every morning before work or after a heavy searching section.
There are many of the young fellows that get fustrated with Malwarebytes blocking sites.

Originally Posted by stewie110

i wear a tin foil had and hide in hole...

you statements above prove that

face it, you dislike apple for the sake of disliking apple, that is fine, your allowed to

but don't confuse your delusions with the realities of day to day to computing..

Originally Posted by Chucaro

I just wonder how many of the infected machines are fault of the owner by ignoring the recomendation of NOD32 together with Malwarebytes runing on the background and setting them to do a scan every morning before work or after a heavy searching section.
There are many of the young fellows that get fustrated with Malwarebytes blocking sites.

very few, most people wouldn't know how and just plod on.

and they don't want to know.

most pay the annual sub to the anti-virus company and carry on regardless

they simply don't understand how it works until it costs them a few bucks and then they stop and think for a little while.

getting thru their heads that they have to alter how they go about things is the hardest part of the process.

Originally Posted by incisor

very few, most people wouldn't know how and just plod on.

and they don't want to know.

most pay the annual sub to the anti-virus company and carry on regardless

they simply don't understand how it works until it costs them a few bucks and then they stop and think for a little while.

getting thru their heads that they have to alter how they go about things is the hardest part of the process.

Ok, then it is not the fault of the OS or software, it is plain ignorance or not care at all