Reply With Quote64bit vista or 32 bit?
If 64 bit then yes But go to 8 as you lose 1gig plus running 32bit apps
32 bit i wouldnt bother with ram & would put a 128gig ssd scratch drive in
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I run Vista on my home desktop. Is there anything gained by adding more than 4 GB RAM?
I find Photoshop really struggles with large files so I'd like to speed it up if I can.
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64bit vista or 32 bit?
If 64 bit then yes But go to 8 as you lose 1gig plus running 32bit apps
32 bit i wouldnt bother with ram & would put a 128gig ssd scratch drive in
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As suggested by the OP more than 4 GB RAM is wasted if you do not have a 64 bit operating system, the RAM cannot be fully addressed by the operating system so isn't used.
A scratch disk might help, that way the system can read both disks (ideally 1 for OS/ PS, the other for data).
I'd suggest formatting your hard drive and reinstalling the software you need. Drastic, and you need to be confident in the process, but I'm always amazed about the difference it can make.
You might want to look at the Vista performance score to see if it identifies any bottlenecks. Onboard video, for instance, can slow a machine as it robs processor cycles from the CPU. Even a cheap video card can improve performance.
HTH
Swaggie
From Adobbe's page:
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Processor speed and Photoshop operations
Although the 64-bit version of Photoshop will speed up some operations, it won't speed all of them, nor will it speed the operation equally. Generally, operations will run approximately 8-12% faster. Overall, processor speed is not the main advantage of using the 64-bit version.
RAM use
The primary advantage of using the 64-bit version is to access amounts of RAM beyond what Photoshop can access when the 32-bit version is run. You can take advantage of more than 4 GB of RAM only when you are on 64-bit systems, using 64-bit Photoshop. If you use files large enough to need more than 4 GB of RAM, and you have enough RAM, all the processing you perform on your large images can be done in RAM, instead of swapping out to the hard disk.
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The PSCS5 32 bit version only can access 3.2 GB the 64 bit can have problems with plugins.
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have only come across a couple that played up with 64bit and if you know you are going to have an issue and want to use that plugin you just run the 32bit version instead of the 64bit version (it will install both on a 64bit system)Originally Posted by Chucaro
exposure won't work in 64bit version but does in 32bit version
and the ssd for the scratch disk makes an immense difference in a low ram machines but you have to set it in the preferences to use that drive letter as the scratch disk.
2007 Discovery 3 SE7 TDV6 2.7
2012 SZ Territory TX 2.7 TDCi
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- a warning from Adolf Hitler
"If you don't have a sense of humour, you probably don't have any sense at all!" -- a wise observation by someone else
'If everyone colludes in believing that war is the norm, nobody will recognize the imperative of peace." -- Anne Deveson
“What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.” - Pericles
"We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.” – Ayn Rand
"The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts." Marcus Aurelius
TopicToaster
What about running in 3gb mode? as in modifying the boot file?
Probably not advised if you don’t have at least 3gb of RAM but if you have 3 or 4 it could be worth doing.
To set the 3GB mode in Vista you need to do the following:
Open a command Prompt and type:
BCDEDIT /set increaseuserva 3072
For details on the BCDEDIT command and it’s options go here:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa906211.aspx
Need to right click and run as administrator when opening the command prompt. even if you have admin rights
In conjunction with the 3GB switch, there is a "userva=xxxx" setting that can be applied to the 3Gb switch boot.ini file. This setting allows you to specify just how much of the 3Gb the switch is allowed to take from your resources. This setting is important as it seems that when the switch is active, your PC is allowed to use ALL of it's resources to complete a task, leaving no room (RAM) for anything else. This means that Applications can on occasion take all the local resources leaving no room for example for the video card to process visual information back to the motherboard as it was full thanks to the setting of the switch, which has been known to leave certain display issues such as a black display.
In conclusion this "userva=xxxx" setting allows you to specify just how much of your RAM the switch is allowed to allocate. So if you set it to "userva=2900" only 2.9Gb of RAM can be used by the switch.
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