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    this is going to be interesting

    a trial based on consumer guarantees ...

    Harvey Norman outlets fight single trial in ACCC battle - Mobility - Technology - News - CRN Australia

    be very very interesting...

    a lot of small businesses will be watching hard and long ....
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    I read the article, but where's the bit where Gerry says he's going broke and wants everyone to give him a break?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judo View Post
    I read the article, but where's the bit where Gerry says he's going broke and wants everyone to give him a break?
    last thing i am interested in is what gerry thinking..

    the out come of this will determine how many small businesses in Au will opt out of retail.

    i don't think many people understand what a fundamental shift this could be...

    or i am having myself on...
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    You could be right, but for the moment I don't see this case changing too much. Time will tell I suppose....
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    I dunno Inc, I was stung (in my old small business) by HP with their bull**** warranties. Refusing warranties is not good for anyone - this really hurts consumer confidence. We had 7 HP laptops dying constantly and were given the run around with replacements. Ended up buying new ones from Dell 9 or 10 months after the HP purchase has the time stuffing around was costing so much.

    The duplicity argument is an interesting one. I guess the ACCC is going that way to discover any parallels that could be systemic through the franchise - I dont think they would do this for independent small businesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flagg View Post
    I dunno Inc, I was stung (in my old small business) by HP with their bull**** warranties. Refusing warranties is not good for anyone - this really hurts consumer confidence. We had 7 HP laptops dying constantly and were given the run around with replacements. Ended up buying new ones from Dell 9 or 10 months after the HP purchase has the time stuffing around was costing so much.

    The duplicity argument is an interesting one. I guess the ACCC is going that way to discover any parallels that could be systemic through the franchise - I dont think they would do this for independent small businesses.
    hp hey, popping inverters and then capacitors i bet..

    apple, toshiba and asus also had a similar run from memory.

    hp have been had several times i believe...
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    they way these laptops are designed is getting ridiculous. Quad cores with the same cooling set ups that we have seen on laptops since the old centrinos came out 10 years ago.

    Half of them would be overheating motherboards (graphics chips etc) as many people will just put them on a pillow or block the vents some other way, and it takes all of an hour or so of that sort of abuse to start frying the chips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewGJones View Post
    they way these laptops are designed is getting ridiculous. Quad cores with the same cooling set ups that we have seen on laptops since the old centrinos came out 10 years ago.

    Half of them would be overheating motherboards (graphics chips etc) as many people will just put them on a pillow or block the vents some other way, and it takes all of an hour or so of that sort of abuse to start frying the chips.
    That maybe true but they don't create proportionately more heat. Even though they're getting faster some have lower power usage meaning less heat. Like everything it's not just the speed of the technology that's getting better, but its the supporting components around it too.
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    imho HN is in the wrong in regards to warranty.

    not saying its their fault, HP are also useless,
    but to the customer, their dealing with HN

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    hp hey, popping inverters and then capacitors i bet..

    apple, toshiba and asus also had a similar run from memory.

    hp have been had several times i believe...
    yep, power supplies, motherboards, keyboards, they were just junk. The sad part is they weren't the cheap line either - supposedly the business end. HP used to be great for support (that is why I purchased the ones that were crap).

    I had one have a display fail in 2004, I went onto the HP website and click on support, then live chat. In 30 seconds I chatted to someone, did the reboot dance and logged a ticket. Literally 5 min later I got a phone call from a guy in a HP service centre down the road. He recognised the address of my office, and knowing it was just down the road suggested I just it to him at reception. I did, and about 20 min later got a phone call from him letting me know it was fixed.

    How times have changed..
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