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    Microsoft (in)Security Essentilas

    Following the advise of an MS certified person 0ne year ago I stopped using the combination of NOD32 and Malwarebytes and installed the "you beauty freebee" Microsoft Security Essentials in my new laptop.
    Well, during the weekend the bank have to stop my internet bank facility because a virus in my laptop.
    It cannot be, I said! it is up to date and protected.
    Craps! I run NOD32 and there were 58 infections on it after Malwarebytes removed 3 Trojans and 12 spyware.

    Today my laptop is back to NOD32/Malwarebytes combo like in the last trouble free 7 years 24/7 use.

    MS can shovel their insecurity software

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    MS can shovel their insecurity software
    i'll have it over those two any day of the week.

    there is no 100% solution and if you don't update and scan daily, nothing will save you.

    malwarebytes at least has some redeeming features if you install run and uninstall but nod32 is rubbish.
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    Shifted to MSE after nod32 started letting bugs through. So far, so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    i'll have it over those two any day of the week.

    there is no 100% solution and if you don't update and scan daily, nothing will save you.

    malwarebytes at least has some redeeming features if you install run and uninstall but nod32 is rubbish.
    Oh well, I just downloaded the trail version.
    If NOD32 now is rubbish and IMO MSE as well which is the leader in antivirus software now?
    Bitdefender?
    Kaspersky?

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    I run norton 360.(symantec).

    Its been very good with my laptops that I've used over the years.Lets me know if I'm downloading a virus or whatever.Runs silently in the background.

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    The only reason Norton stops other viruses is because it wants to be the only bloody virus on your computer. Bloody thing. Talk about using up system resources to no end....
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    i'll have it over those two any day of the week.

    there is no 100% solution and if you don't update and scan daily, nothing will save you.

    malwarebytes at least has some redeeming features if you install run and uninstall but nod32 is rubbish.
    On advice from my IT savvy mate, I recently cancelled Norton 360 and converted to MS Security Essentials. I also pay $30 pa for email virus protection from my service provider Westnet.
    Dave - I get an auto update each time I switch on, but my question is what is then the benefit of running scans, and how ofter should deep scans be run (I've never really understood the difference between updates and scans)
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    The updates are to update the virus definicions (new virus) the scan is to scan your HDD files to see if they are clean of virus or malware.
    The problem with MSE is that it is a sieve and allow to enter virus in the computer.
    Good software (like the old Eset) should block the page and ask the user if he/she would like to continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    The problem with MSE is that it is a sieve and allow to enter virus in the computer.
    to be blunt, that is rubbish arthur.

    mse also has a better clean up rate than most others if something does get through, tho like i said, nothing stops them all these days because they come thru the same ports that you use to view web pages so if you allow a web page through the firewall the virii and trojans get through as well.

    based on what i see come through the door every week

    norton 360 is fine if it will keep running on your system without killing it after being there a month or so and it kills heaps.

    norton antivirus on it's own is a much better product than 360

    avg anything is crap at the moment as well

    kaspersky antivirus, not internet security or pure, is the best pay one at the moment but it doesnt clean up as well as mse at times

    most of the rest are hopeless.

    avast is another free one that does a better job than most pay ones but it gets way to many false positives at times and is a pesterer.

    just my well worn opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    to be blunt, that is rubbish arthur.

    mse also has a better clean up rate than most others if something does get through, tho like i said, nothing stops them all these days because they come thru the same ports that you use to view web pages so if you allow a web page through the firewall the virii and trojans get through as well.

    based on what i see come through the door every week

    norton 360 is fine if it will keep running on your system without killing it after being there a month or so and it kills heaps.

    norton antivirus on it's own is a much better product than 360

    avg anything is crap at the moment as well

    kaspersky antivirus, not internet security or pure, is the best pay one at the moment but it doesnt clean up as well as mse at times

    most of the rest are hopeless.

    avast is another free one that does a better job than most pay ones but it gets way to many false positives at times and is a pesterer.

    just my well worn opinion
    You are entiled to your opinion, I just base my on what had happens to my main LT and the old one as well
    In both cases the malware bypassed MSE and disabled the Win7 firewall and protection.
    In both cases Malware byte detected the problem a fix it.
    In both cases the scan of MSE was unable to detect 3 trojans plus several spyware.
    So it is not rubbish what I said is true, MSE is a sieve.
    If the other antivirus software are as bad as MSE, well you see more computers than me and I understand your fustration, it appears that the bad people are winning

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