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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Thought you didnt go on trips Ron
    I don't. Elisabeth goes by herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    Did you consider Lubuntu?

    DistroWatch.com: Lubuntu

    It is supposed to be better on very old systems.
    I don't usually stick my head into this section of the website, but I just had to poke my nose in to mention that I've been a Linux nutter for years. I can highly HIGHLY recommend Ubuntu and it's many flavours. (Lubuntu, Xubuntu etc)
    At the moment as I type this, I'm running a 1year old Sony Vaio E Series Laptop. It was shipped with Windows 8. It has been driving me crazy. Coincidently, it was just two days ago that I switched it over to Linux. It's sooo much faster, and more streamlined. Even the CPU fan is doing less work!!!
    My main PC is also running Linux, that is just an old Acer, that I've built over the years, added cards and memory etc. It is running Ubuntu 14.
    Point being, Lubuntu, is equally as good on flash new Laptops/PC's, as it is on old Dinosaur ones.
    The other benefit with a Linux system, is a place they call the Software Repository.
    Think of it like a Google play store or iTunes store, you just look around for the software you want/need and download it. Simple as, no need to know Terminal (command prompt) language. (although I do speak Terminal)
    Anyway, I just thought I'd 'chip in' with my 2c worth.
    Linux all the way every day!
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    I'd love to run linux and should go back to checking out LinuxCNC at some point. Last time I had setup issues and mach3/XP was so easy.

    Sadly my CAD programs and graphics drivers kept me away from linux on my workstation laptop last time I looked.

    The amount of FUD M$ is spreading over XP right now is obscene. Trying to trick everyone into upgrading. I had a customer call me yesterday too scared to send anything through a website order because their computers use XP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    I'd love to run linux and should go back to checking out LinuxCNC at some point. Last time I had setup issues and mach3/XP was so easy.

    Sadly my CAD programs and graphics drivers kept me away from linux on my workstation laptop last time I looked.

    The amount of FUD M$ is spreading over XP right now is obscene. Trying to trick everyone into upgrading. I had a customer call me yesterday too scared to send anything through a website order because their computers use XP.
    Yes, do check it out. Linux (ubuntu) have just released a new version. (March 28)
    Check out the website because they have also updated the drivers and ancillary programs. I'm not into CAD, but I have seen some programs and drivers related to CAD in the software repository. Bit I wouldn't know what to look for.....
    As for all the scaremongering about XP, I think it's disgusting, as you know, and has been mentioned, it will be perfectly ok until the Virus definitions stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discovery39 View Post
    As for all the scaremongering about XP, I think it's disgusting, as you know, and has been mentioned, it will be perfectly ok until the Virus definitions stop.
    unfortunately it isn't just scaremongering, it is trying to get people to protect themselves and their information.

    any idiot with an iq above 5 should realise an xp box sitting in the corner not connected to anything else is going to keep on working till something in the hardware or software degrades.

    that can't be said for an xp box that accesses the Internet on a regular basis. anyone that thinks that is in anyway a safe proposition, needs to have a little sit and think as they are deluding themselves.

    yes, as an operating system it will keep running, yes as an operating system it will still let you surf the net, unfortunately even with the best antivirus and internet security package installed the weaknesses are still in the operating system and use the very same points of access that you use to do things on the net.

    the days of crucifying machines with viruses is long gone, they have realised there is money in your info and using xp is like handing it on to them on a platter.

    the heartbleed ssl bug is a prime example of a very serious leak that wont be fixed in the base xp operating system or the ie interface or ie components used by third party browsers like chrome etc

    the dangers and risks are very clear and present ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    unfortunately it isn't just scaremongering, it is trying to get people to protect themselves and their information.

    any idiot with an iq above 5 should realise an xp box sitting in the corner not connected to anything else is going to keep on working till something in the hardware or software degrades.

    that can't be said for an xp box that accesses the Internet on a regular basis. anyone that thinks that is in anyway a safe proposition, needs to have a little sit and think as they are deluding themselves.

    yes, as an operating system it will keep running, yes as an operating system it will still let you surf the net, unfortunately even with the best antivirus and internet security package installed the weaknesses are still in the operating system and use the very same points of access that you use to do things on the net.

    the days of crucifying machines with viruses is long gone, they have realised there is money in your info and using xp is like handing it on to them on a platter.

    the heartbleed ssl bug is a prime example of a very serious leak that wont be fixed in the base xp operating system or the ie interface or ie components used by third party browsers like chrome etc

    the dangers and risks are very clear and present ....
    I couldn't agree with you more Inc. My point is that people just need to approach the subject with a clear head, and use caution until they can find something else.
    It's all the hype I'm talking about. Maybe forcing the un-educated that the only alternative is a flashy new system with Windows 8+ on it. As you say, anyone with an IQ above five should be reasonable enough to establish the fact that there is a risk.
    We just have to make sure you have all your systems secure Inc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by discovery39 View Post
    We just have to make sure you have all your systems secure Inc.
    i don't use xp or linux on my servers
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    i don't use xp or linux on my servers
    You're not one of those funny Apple types are you...........

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    no, i am odder, i use bsd and solaris on my servers

    mac at home.. (and a heavily modded, bank switching atari 600xl for my old games )

    windows 8.1, 8, 7 and xp at work....
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    Ah, good old Solaris. I'd forgotten that one. Think I'll go check them out, c how they're doing these days.

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