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    What do people think of the idea that I have read about somewhere of using the first letters of your favourite, slightly obscure song? It would be easy to remember, but doesn't contain a word found in a dictionary.

    So if you remembered the old Australian folk song "Billy Brink, the Shearer", your password could be
    t1wasbnoBB
    or if a longer one was needed
    t1wasbnoBBadfw&adfd

    Surely that is difficult to guess but easy to remember.

    For people too young to be familiar with the words of the old folk song they are:
    BILLY BRINK

    There once was a shearer by name of Bill Brink,
    A devil for work and a devil for drink,
    He'd shear his two hundred a day without fear
    And he'd drink without stopping two gallons of beer.

    When the pub opened up he was very first in
    Roaring for whisky and howling for gin,
    Saying, "Jimmy, my boy, I'm dying of thirst,
    Whatever you've got here just give to me first."

    Now Jimmy the barman who served him the rum
    Hated the sight of old Billy the bum,
    He came up too late, he came up too soon,
    At morning, at evening, at night and at noon.

    Now Jimmy the barman was cleaning the bar
    With sulphuric acid locked up in a jar,
    He poured him a measure into a small glass,
    Saying, "After this drink you will surely say 'Pass'."'

    "Well," says Billy to Jimmy, "the stuff it tastes fine.
    She's a new kind of liquor or whisky or wine.
    Yes, that's the stuff. Jimmy, I'm as strong as a Turk,
    I'll break all the records today at my work."

    Well, all that day long there was Jim at the bar,
    Roaring and trembling with a terrible fear,
    Too eager to argue, too anxious to fight,
    For he pictured the corpse of old Bill in his sight.

    But early next mom there was Bill as before,
    Roaring and bawling and howling for more,
    His eyeballs were singed and his whiskers deranged,
    He had holes in his hide like a dog with the mange.

    Said Billy to Jimmy, “She sure was fine stuff,
    It made me feel well but I ain't had enough.
    It started me coughing, you know I'm no liar,
    And every damn cough set my whiskers on fire.”

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    Yep, definitely stupid and will only result in people writing them down. As said below, get every single person to ring the IT section every single day saying they've forgotten their password.
    Or just reverse the pasword.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Debacle View Post
    You just need to get your co workers together and have everyone ring the IT help desk every day, because you have forgotten your password.

    They will get the message eventually.
    Last time I rang the help desk I was on hold for 5 1/2 hours.
    That's a lot longer than our "customers" wait......

    Quote Originally Posted by FeatherWeightDriver View Post
    Try KeePass - it is a password vault, so you only need to remember the password to get in to your computer and the password to get in to the vault - and then copy + paste to freedom.
    Can't install any programs at all ! Even ones we need....

    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat View Post
    Do you work for an American company by any chance Vlad? Any company over a certain size that is based in the States has to comply with the Sarbanes-Oxley Act (SOX) - Sarbanes–Oxley_Act of which one part is password security that requires that level of complexity. Either that, or your IT team have been reading up on it and thought it was a good idea...

    Been through SOX compliance with a previous company. Stupid thing was that it had the opposite effect in reality as everyone just wrote their passwords down as they could never remember them...
    Indeed. No I work in the APS.
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    My 2 cents worth.. NOT much your IT department can do !!

    Security/password setting are more often determined by application/operating system you or your organization is using (and if you are like many of us using windows OS then you have to adhere security/password policy of windows) hence, complexity requirements are enforced at that level and lot will depend on audit requirements too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    ... Can't install any programs at all ! Even ones we need....
    KeePass runs on your phone. You don't need to install it on your PC.
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    Someone should point out to those clowns that unnecessary password complexity leads to people writing their password down and leaving it where they can find it easily each time they log on.

    Our IT did something similar, and I pointed that out to them. When they went to help a user who was having trouble they noticed their password on a sticky note attached to the monitor. Nets thing you know there was a new password policy...

    The worst thing is when they start looking at previous combinations and preventing new passwords that are similar to others. That plays with your mind, because you need to follow a thought process to come up with passwords that aren't words, contain UC, LC, numbers, and punctuation characters.

    Don't get me started...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat View Post
    Do you work for an American company by any chance Vlad? Any company over a certain size that is based in the States has to comply with the Sarbanes-Oxley Act (SOX) - Sarbanes–Oxley_Act of which one part is password security that requires that level of complexity. Either that, or your IT team have been reading up on it and thought it was a good idea...

    Been through SOX compliance with a previous company. Stupid thing was that it had the opposite effect in reality as everyone just wrote their passwords down as they could never remember them...
    Yup, live it EVERY day.


    I was in a training course with the IT Director one day, and needed to get something off my laptop. I opened it up, mumbled something about the password, and lifted my laptop to have a look underneath, then put my password in.

    His face was priceless, as he thought I had written my password on the bottom of the machine. I did set his mind at ease, until I told him that I keep all my other passwords (16 of them) on a sticky note on the monitor.

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    I was having a bad day once, so i banned all vowels in passwords
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    I have something like 4PAGES of passwords in my Trend Micro vault.

    Every bloody company seems to have a different password protocol.
    EG Optus ? requires a capital at the start but Gmail doesn't . I think. some are numeric 4 digit.

    Some use your email address as customer number, some have only 5 fields for customer number.
    I use one password for non critical accounts like AULRO wher enoone can steal your money LOL, especially where there is another dependency .

    I have found a great way to remember non alphabet passwords.

    Maybe take the rego number of your car and add it to the model.
    eg L322my06poo001( rego) .

    The safest IMHO is like RABObank. We have a digital fob which requires a password to enter which then synchronises with their computer random numbers, and to do anything inside the account you have to have a random generated number as well. The account number is also separate.
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    I'm tempted by these password vaults, but why should I trust them?
    I suppose they are more secure than a password protected Word document.
    By all means get a Defender. If you get a good one, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
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