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    Router question

    I am running a Netgear router (WGR614 v9). Having my grandchildren here at the moment, I am struggling to allow them some internet access without their using all my data allowance in one day (At home their data allowance is 700GB/month and they sometimes run over, mine is 10+20 offpeak on satellite).

    As a result I am making frequent changes to the router settings, particularly the wireless settings, for example changing the access list according to which one wants to do what and whether I trust them, or simply switching wireless on and off. (They haven't guessed the router password (yet))

    I have found that I can make changes either from my wired desktop, or from my laptop via wireless. However, I am finding that if I make a change using the wireless link from the laptop, I am unable to log in to the router again from it to make further changes. Logging in from the desktop seems to reset the situation.

    My question is, is this normal behaviour, or an undocumented feature, or what?

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    Just to eliminate the laptop from being the problem, does it do the same thing when you alter settings from, say, a smart phone?

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    if your making a change to the wireless, your laptop (which uses wifeless) will be in trouble, unless i've misunderstood soemthing

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    If you change the access list and haven't given your laptop access then this is the correct behaviour.

    I used to tell customers not to configure their router via wireless because some changes can cause a disconnection and if the setting are not compatible with the device making the changes i.e. your laptop then it will be disconnected and won't be able to reconnect until the settings are changed back from a device plugged in via a cable.

    Since school holidays started my Son used our whole 200GB last month and so far 8 days into this month we are up to 60GB (normally we use 80-100Gb for the month).

    I think you only option if you have limited unless you trust them or you want to pay for more capacity, you need to block them (and make sure you don't have the default password in the router as they are easily guessed).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    if your making a change to the wireless, your laptop (which uses wifeless) will be in trouble, unless i've misunderstood soemthing
    Obviously, if I do something like switch wireless off, but I am talking about, for example, changing the permitted access list, leaving the laptop as a permitted user. And the laptop continues to have normal wireless access, just that it can't access the router (no error page, which the router is very good at giving, but just hangs without getting anywhere.

    And for BadCo's question - I don't have a smartphone, and I don't want to access the router from the kid's laptops or tablets (don't want to show them how to do it!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Obviously, if I do something like switch wireless off, but I am talking about, for example, changing the permitted access list, leaving the laptop as a permitted user. And the laptop continues to have normal wireless access, just that it can't access the router (no error page, which the router is very good at giving, but just hangs without getting anywhere.
    i think when you make a wireless change, the wireless on the router reboots/refreshes and make your previous log in stale, probably via a cookie.

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    Most of the Wireless are appliances now and have been for some while, and a lot I have seen do as Eevo has suggested when making changes on wireless which is why I usually tell people to make changes via a cable.

    As a test when you make a change and if you can't access the router any more try disabling and re-enabling your wireless and see if that allows access.

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    Obviously the solution is to make changes via cable; I was just trying to understand what was going on.

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    I think these devices are made to a price and I have seen plenty of glitches with them over the years. If the router also does DHCP, firewall, etc I am sure you will find these companies don't spend a lot of time finding every bug and then fixing them.

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    On a side not, if you want to get serious about policing your network and are a bit computer savvy you can try something like Gargoyle.

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