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    Computer - copying VHS to DVD

    One for the computer buffs.

    I have a DV card in my computer to capture Video camera footage, analogue video (eg VHS) and audio.

    I use PowerDirector Pro to convert the video to MPEG 2 - the MPEG2 is of good quality and the audio is synchronised.

    I use either NeoDVD or Power Producer Gold to convert the MPEG2 into DVD.

    The problem is that the audio is then out of sync with the video (it is in sync when in Mpeg2 format)

    In a 3 hour video the audio can end up being about 4 secs out of sync.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated from those of you conveting video of your trips to DVDs. Likewise if anyone knows of another specialist formum who might help I would appreciate it.

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    Is any of the audio set to 30 fps/60hz rather than 25fps/50hz?

    That could cause a loss of synch in your audio.

    PAL - Australia 25fps/50hz
    NTSC -- USA 30fps/60hz

    Or if your stuff is transferred or set at 24fps which is standard for motion picture cameras.

    hth

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    welcome to the land of burning video on pc's

    i gave up capturing to mpeg.

    i now always capture to DV on a firewair external drive

    edit then burn etc

    are you burning to dvd or svcd ?

    svcd is very prone to loss of sync under nero...

    when you say the disk is out of sync do you mean replaying on computer or replaying on tv style dvd player or both?

    depending on the codec you use many good quality players will lose sync while cheap ones usually work great. for example some high end toshiba dvd units will actually play the audio in front of the pics by up to 15 seconds [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]

    mixing ntsc and pal source also causes loss of sync ie. look at your frame rates and sizing and encoding types, vbr etc etc and make sure you are encoding / burning in the right format

    nero has it's problems and loss of sync can be one of them esp if you are using pirated copies of nero or codec packs.

    me, i found the easiest way to beat it is buy a mac and something that actually locks audio and video during capture, such as the canopus black boxes [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]

    i went that way and havent had loss of sync in yonks .....

    can be fun trying to get to the bottom of this sort of thing...
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    Interesting to see the same problems on both PCs and Macs.

    The last time I tried to transfer a copy of a mates family tape, from VHS to DVD on a Mac, I had the same problem.

    Loaded the tape via a Digital camera into Final Cut Pro, put a few markers in, no other editing and the transferred the whole thing to DVD Studio Pro and burnt a disk.

    Just run the disk for a few seconds in a DVD player and it seemed to be OK but at the time, didn’t have time to play the whole thing and the mate wanted a heap of copies for the family so I waited till he had played the whole thing ( luckily ) and then when I had time, I was going to burn the rest.

    He rings me a few days later and says the DVD starts out fine but by the end of the one hour DVD there is 4 seconds difference between the audio and video.

    I spent any spare time I had over the next two weeks trying to solve the problem. The thing run perfectly in Final Cut Pro but no matter what I did, every DVD I burnt had the same problem.

    He ended up going to another mate with a PC and got it done.

    Seems to be some common problems with both systems and inc, I have other words for it and their nothing like the word FUN. :wink:

    Hmmmmmm.

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    I was going to buy a DVD recorder (Aldi have them next week for $179) and just play the video tapes straight into that.

    Will that work OK?

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    very interesting

    since i went the way of the canopus advc's and my power book the only time i get a stuff up is when i out smart my self [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]

    i know you have had enormous problems, but i have never seen them.

    that said, the 4 sec loss of sync is a classic sign of a framerate missmatch.

    will quizz one of my customers who does this stuff for a living and get his opinion and report back on what he reckons it may be....
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    Originally posted by p38arover
    I was going to buy a DVD recorder (Aldi have them next week for $179) and just play the video tapes straight into that.

    Will that work OK?

    Ron
    Yeah, probably. Most likely a lot easier than pushing it through your computer as well, 'cos there's no settings for you to adjust.

    Lucky DVD-R's are cheap now so wasting a few isn't too much of a worry.


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    If all else fails, a mate of mine has a commercial Pioneer DVD burner that seems to work well and doesn't have any issues like this. He did oiur video from the desert and just plugged the AV in from our DV camer and recorded it. Probably not the best quality but fine for watching on TV. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
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    Hi p38arover, I’ve had one for about 3 months now but can’t be bothered trying to burn one but my daughter has had one for the same time and she is having a ball playing with it including burning DVDs.

    It’s a much cheaper way to go, now that these hard drive recorders have come down so much in cost.

    Cheers.

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    Hi inc, I bet it is something as simple as buggery, but I can’t find it.

    Cheers.

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