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    Not a fan of the fruity flavoured operating system personally, sometimes now have to endure it for the missus tho.

    Don't think you can get away from co-pilot just cos your pc came from the fruit market tho. If you use the online M$ office app environment, it ominously there too.(it is for my missus)

    But for a Win 10(I assume Win11) system, you should be easily able to remove copilot from your PC, if your issue is PC related .. i.e. and not just an office app problem!!

    If it's a PC related issue and it's annoying on the PC in some way, just uninstall it from the PC, just like you would uninstall any other software.
    I haven't ever been bothered by it since M$ installed it in some update I made ... whenever.
    I saw it, found it was listed in the programs list too, uninstalled it and it hasn't ever bothered me on the PC ever since. I don't get it in Word or Excel.

    I have to say, it's quite good, with the specific intent here that I'm not the kind of person that would voluntarily enroll into an MBA type course.
    However my missus is! ... so I have to suffer for it.

    Maybe copilot is annoying for you, and me ..... and maybe Bobby Magee! ... but for my Japanese partner who's primary language is not English, copilot is a godsend(for me, that is).
    It helps her get her head around English, so I get much fewer request to correct her English writing, and very occasionally I just have to 'elaborate' on why the English language is the worst most convoluted language ever forced onto humans.

    Anyhow, that doesn't help you, that was more of a perspective of don't knock it just coz you don't really need it .... (yet).
    The point here is that I can see how it would be handy as a tool for writing(or research, or whatever else it can do).

    I get that intrusions into our lives are usually annoying, and sometimes can't be turned off .. enough ... I'm the same, but I've seen it now from the perspective that it's indirectly helped me, and helping my partner too.
    Being a Samsung phone user, I had to disable the idiotic AI assistant that is Bixby.

    So, you can easily remove the from the software list on the PC, not sure if it's easily disabled online, never looked, because I'd prefer that it helps my partner.
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    I have used Win10 for years but have never seen CoPilot. I'll have to look up what it is and what it does.

    My wife uses a Mac but I can't use one, too hard to use after being a Windows user from day 1.

    (I have separate laptops with 3.1, 95, 98, XP, Win 2000, Win 7, and Win 10 - plus Linux Mint. I have Win 8.1 in a box.)
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    Co-pilot and one drive are easily removed with the free version of revo uninstaller
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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    I have used Win10 for years but have never seen CoPilot. I'll have to look up what it is and what it does.

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    copilot is an Ai type thingy assistant for helping with various things(as I understand it)

    My partner has to write up assignments, and while she can communicate well, her English isn't perfect.
    She's got her degree in Japan, so knows how to do the work, just that it's more confusing for her trying to disseminate English AND trying to complete this MBA course.

    copilot helps her to translate English to Japanese and back.

    The topics asked of her are 'nearly' understandable, but to confirm her understanding she will translate it into Japanese. Then she knows what she has to do, writes it up in Japanese translates it into English and I check it for grammar and spelling.
    copilot is helpful here.

    On the online version of word, it's a bit pesky pretty much always asking you what it is you want to do ... basically an assistant.

    It would be interesting to see how well it recognises voice ... for example dictation or whatever too(if it can do this).
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    Co-pilot and one drive are easily removed with the free version of revo uninstaller
    Do tell - Dave! How and where can one source such a version? Especially, if it is from a secure and reputable source! I am very cautions of clone downloaded freeware that gets somehow linked to the less reputable types, such as hackers.

    Postscript: Following on the old philosophy "the Lord helps those who help themselves", I revisited some of the Microsoft forums that are highly critical of Copilot. Armed wit Dave's information I found a contribution that provided a link to the very same company that Dave kindly mentioned. Here is the link.


    1. Use Revo Uninstaller to uninstall the program. See the link below:

    https://www.revouninstaller.com/revo-uninstalle...


    Also, thank you Manoel Barros Independent Advisor for posting the original link. I checked out the site and was happy with their offerings and the security offered if I chose to opt for the paid for - more features version of their software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    Do tell - Dave! How and where can one source such a version? Especially, if it is from a secure and reputable source! I am very cautions of clone downloaded freeware that gets somehow linked to the less reputable types, such as hackers.

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    You don't need it that much.

    On the PC, just go to your programs list in the c section, rightclick copilot and uninstall... easy as that.

    If the online version is annoying too, you can disable it via your microsoft account settings. That is, you have Office365, so you have to have a Microsoft account. that could be an outlook, hotmail or whatever account you used to get 365. In the account that you use, you can disable the copilot assistant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    You don't need it that much.

    On the PC, just go to your programs list in the c section, rightclick copilot and uninstall... easy as that.

    If the online version is annoying too, you can disable it via your microsoft account settings. That is, you have Office365, so you have to have a Microsoft account. that could be an outlook, hotmail or whatever account you used to get 365. In the account that you use, you can disable the copilot assistant.
    Hello Arthur,

    Thank you for that advice and insight. As Maxwell Smart used to say ... "I missed it by that much!"

    However, I am more than happy to make a small contribution to any little player in the field who devotes time to remove some of the excesses that some giant conglomerates consider it their right to impose upon their consumers.

    Lionel's small act of rebellion against the big players for today .... Tick

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    Now it is time for Lionel to go for a walk in the paddock ... see ya!

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    I just checked, Copilot is installed on my PC but it's never shown it's head and I have no idea how to activate it.
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    I have a MacBook running ventura and use the 365 package mainly because it was part of a deal with telstra and a domain name registration.

    I vaguely remember the co-pilot thing popping up out of the blue some months ago when I opened an old word doc and just clicked something like 'not now' or 'decline' or something similar and haven't seen it ever since. Just checked now and it's not there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    Maybe copilot is annoying for you, and me ..... and maybe Bobby Magee! ... but for my Japanese partner who's primary language is not English, copilot is a godsend(for me, that is).
    It helps her get her head around English, so I get much fewer request to correct her English writing, and very occasionally I just have to 'elaborate' on why the English language is the worst most convoluted language ever forced onto humans.
    Our daughter lives in Japan and spent 2 years at a college learning to read, write, and speak Japanese. Now she's doing a 2 year course in forestry management and woodworking that is in Japanese only. She uses a Mac. I wonder if she uses AI.

    Oh, I don't find English convoluted.
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