Internet Security / Antivirus

**incisor** · 25th February 2007, 09:36 AM

there is always "live care" :P

**dmdigital** · 25th February 2007, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by incisor

there is always "live care" :P

Then there are all those who seem to run "don't care"

... how many times do you have to tell them: Keep the A/V software and windows patches up to date

**waynep** · 25th February 2007, 10:20 AM

Slightly off topic, can some of the Defender owners explain why Bill Gates would name his Anti Spyware software after your vehicles ? :

Towit :

"Windows Defender is a free program that helps protect your computer against pop-ups, slow performance, and security threats caused by spyware and other unwanted software. It features Real-Time Protection, a monitoring system that recommends actions against spyware when it's detected and minimizes interruptions and helps you stay productive"

**p38arover** · 25th February 2007, 10:22 AM

Does anyone use Defender or is it more MS Bloatware?

I'd move to Linux but I fear the learning curve may be too steep.

Ron

**dmdigital** · 25th February 2007, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by waynep

Slightly off topic, can some of the Defender owners explain why Bill Gates would name his Anti Spyware software after your vehicles ? :

Towit :

"Windows Defender is a free program that helps protect your computer against pop-ups, slow performance, and security threats caused by spyware and other unwanted software. It features Real-Time Protection, a monitoring system that recommends actions against spyware when it's detected and minimizes interruptions and helps you stay productive"

Does this mean we will all have to upgrade to Defender 2007

**DiscoDave** · 25th February 2007, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by barryj

Yes I agree with not using our real email address but I have registered programs in the past using my hotmail account and never received confirmation via hotmail.

Did you check in the "junk" folder? I've never had a problem with confirmation emails in hotmail even with sites that say there will be a problem!

**Captain_Rightfoot** · 25th February 2007, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by p38arover

Does anyone use Defender or is it more MS Bloatware?

I'd move to Linux but I fear the learning curve may be too steep.

Ron

I'm sorry, but I have to say this. BUY A MAC

**dmdigital** · 25th February 2007, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by p38arover

Does anyone use Defender or is it more MS Bloatware?

I'd move to Linux but I fear the learning curve may be too steep.

Ron

Yes, good tool. MS bought Giant Anti-spyware and turned it into Defender. Just another of their many "home grown"... OK paid for ... products!

**p38arover** · 25th February 2007, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

I'm sorry, but I have to say this. BUY A MAC

I've tried using my daughter's Mac - I can't drive it. Too flamin' complex. Much easier with Windows.

Ron

**DarrenR** · 25th February 2007, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by p38arover

Does anyone use Defender or is it more MS Bloatware?

Ron

Ron,
Defender is a good application, but I do recommend using Lavasoft's Ad-Aware and Trend Micro's online scanner with it.

Mal/spyware etc, there is no one application that will remove all nasties, the above 3, when used together will generally be an effective solution to most mal/spyware. There is a smaller amount of serious mal/spyware that require specific removal methods and can be extremely difficult for the average home user to remove.

I prolly get 20 - 40 computers per week for repair that have some form of mal/spyware infection and out of that, possibly 8 may have a nasty that requires specific removal methods to effectively clean. The average amount of mal/spyware items on an infected computer (that I've had to repair) generally is round 100 items, with the highest I've had was 500 and most recently over 700.

To me it's a far more serious problem than Viruses.

Best regards
DarrenR

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