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    New Computer time...Help!

    Thanks to KRudd and his educational vision, he has given us funding to declare school edcuational supplies as a tax deductable item. This amounts to 50% for high school students to a total of $750 i.e. spend $1500.

    As a result I am looking at upgrading the desktop. I've never really had a fast computer and I'm not that flash on these things either. All the desktop does now is internet, accounts and just general computer work. I do have Photoshop Pro XI which I would like to explore further without having to use the laptop. I do have a 250g backup drive to store all the important bits.

    There are two systems I have in mind..

    System 1.
    Processor:Intel Core 2 Duo E8400Memory:2GB DDR2Hard Disk:Western Digital 320GB 7200RPM 8M SataII Graphics:Gigabyte Nvidia 8600GT 256MB PCIESound:AC'97 6 Channel SurroundNetwork:Integrated 10/100 EthernetOptical Drive:20X Max DVD+/-RW with double layer write capabilityChassis:Panda Midi TowerPorts:USB: 6 ports (4 rear + 2 front) *Max 8 ports
    Audio: Front: headphone, microphone; Back: line-in, line-out, microphone, surround, center/LFE
    VGA: 1 D-Sub
    Legacy: 2 PS/2 Ports, 1 Serial, 1 Parallel
    Sata: 4 Supporting Raid 0(Stripe), Raid 1(Mirror), 0+1 and JBOD
    Slots:PCIe 16x: 1x PCIe 16X slot for graphics card
    PCIe 1x: 1x PCI-Express 1x slot
    PCI: 2x PCI slots
    Power:450Watt ATX Power SupplyDimension:45 x 55 x 26 cmWeight:±7kg


    System 2.
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 System
    HIT Online

    Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (3 Ghz)
    All-In-One Motherboard
    2GB DDR2 RAM
    250GB HDD
    Dual Layer DVD Writer
    Black ATX Case (w/Front USB+Audio)


    There is a $100 difference between the two units and I do have a spare 256mb PCI video card collecting dust.


    Any thoughts on what is suitable...I'm not quite up to speed on these matters

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    Either will be alright but i would go for a larger hard drive 500 or 750 gig as you soon fill a 250gig drive with videos etc. Even 1TB drives are fairly cheap but i have heard of failures on these so i'd wait a bit longer on them.
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    I wont comment on the spec itself, but I'd suggest to check out what the power supply is like.

    Some of the small cheap ones can be quite noisy so its well worthwhile spending another $20 or so at build time and getting a better quality one. Usually the better ones have larger fans that spin more slowly so less noise.

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    I thought it was 50% once you've spent more than $1500, and I'm sure its means tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveG View Post
    I wont comment on the spec itself, but I'd suggest to check out what the power supply is like.

    Some of the small cheap ones can be quite noisy so its well worthwhile spending another $20 or so at build time and getting a better quality one. Usually the better ones have larger fans that spin more slowly so less noise.

    Steve
    Thats a very good tip and one that i have come to agree with after having some nasty cheap & noisy PSU's, i have a compaq here at work on my desk and its completely silent and built like a brick ****e house.
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    All good points....

    I'm onto the PSU angle as Whirlpool has little talk about it being critical with the Gigabyte Nvidia 8600GT video card.

    Thats the problem with generic description. I don't even know what I am getting.

    As for the funding my interpretation at this stage is 50% of the list of things I can claim. So if I end up claiming $100, our little mate Krudd pays $50.

    I'm upgrading and getting on board before the money runs out

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    IMO if money is tight go for the all in one Motherboard even though I'm not a fan of them myself. What you really want to be looking at is the upgradability in the future. All parts can be upgraded but I expect the CPU 3Gb/Dcore will last a fair while.
    I have a 2.4Gb Dcore, (from memory) running 64bit vista and using a cpu monitor it hardly touches the CPU cycles so you'll be fine with a 3Gb.

    What I mean is if you are getting a motherboard with x2 ram slots and are putting in x2 sticks of ram you will need to dump the existing ram to upgrade.

    Do you have both the motherboard make/model numbers available?

    I wouldnt get overly hung up on spec unless you are a keen gamer or do a lot of heavy 3d graphics.

    To cut it short go for the better of the two motherboards all the rest can be upgrarded overtime. I suppose the motherboard can too but its easier to throw in extra ram/video the a new mobo.

    make sure you ask about an operating system it appears HITonline dont supply windows with the PC. IMO also not sure of the price increase but if its not much got for 64bit vista instead of 32 it has much better memory utilisation, (is that real word, lol).

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    I'd spend $1600.00 on an 20" iMac...

    Far better unit, will game quite nicely (ok it wont do 6 million frames per second ) but runs everything well..

    Runs OS X and WinSlows ... So you can use everything....

    You'll love it more than some generic PC...

    (And it wont chew electricity like modern PCs do either!!!)

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    Just checked its a 2.3 dcore and runs Vista like a dream.
    By chance I also run two Nvidia 8600 GT cards I have a 400W power supply and havent had any issues

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    hmmm not sure we should start the PC/Apple/OS debate

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