Internet Censorship - again

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

the blacklist already contains political material such as anti-abortion propaganda. And can they really expect no future government would use it for this? History says that if the facility exists, it will be used,

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one just has to look at the records for what has been deemed R rated or totally banned in AU over the last few years to see that is how it is... only a small portion was sex related....

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

That is a pretty accurate picture, although to be fair, laying additional cables is almost certainly beyond the resources of any except perhaps the largest ISPs, and even there it is unlikely that any except Telstra would have the capital resources to consider it - and they seem to regard other things as more important.

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I can assure you that cable planning is an ongoing thing.

The problem is that there is little money in transporting internet traffic.

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Originally Posted by p38arover

I can assure you that cable planning is an ongoing thing.

The problem is that there is little money in transporting internet traffic.

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As I said, Telstra has better things to spend money on! As with many areas where Australia is contrasted adversely with overseas countries, it comes down to geography - in this case the distance to the rest of the world compared to the amount of traffic.

John

It has nothing to do with protecting the kiddies and everything to do with exercising control over all of you.

Anyway, attached is an interesting article from a conference I was at last month in San Francisco.

Alan

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Originally Posted by disco2hse

It has nothing to do with protecting the kiddies and everything to do with exercising control over all of you.

Anyway, attached is an interesting article from a conference I was at last month in San Francisco.

Alan

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Interesting article, nothing new in it though. It does, however, fall into the same error that the politicians seem to have - it regards the internet as a "medium" like television, books, movies etc, whereas in fact it is more akin to Australia Post - and I don't see any move to censor everything that arrives in your mailbox.

John

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Interesting article, nothing new in it though. It does, however, fall into the same error that the politicians seem to have - it regards the internet as a "medium" like television, books, movies etc, whereas in fact it is more akin to Australia Post - and I don't see any move to censor everything that arrives in your mailbox.

John

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True, but he does put it together in a more or less coherent form.

About the medium, do you not think that if they could censor your mail they would?

And as it is you do have customs who look for contraband, so in a way there are already searches done on it. Slunnie sent me some stuff and it had been opened in Australia.

Alan

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Originally Posted by disco2hse

True, but he does put it together in a more or less coherent form.

About the medium, do you not think that if they could censor your mail they would?

And as it is you do have customs who look for contraband, so in a way there are already searches done on it. Slunnie sent me some stuff and it had been opened in Australia.

Alan

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There is a slight difference - they don't open and read your letters (yet) (that I know of!); the internet is information only.

John

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

There is a slight difference - they don't open and read your letters (yet) (that I know of!); the internet is information only.

John

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Ah yes, but again, if they could censor your mail they would, wouldn't they?

That's one of the things that annoys me about Australia. We just let them do this to us! Aaaargh.

That is one good thing about the US (and I know there are many bad things). If the citizens don't want something done to them by way of restrictions it doesn't happen. They have a constitutional right to freedom where all we seem to have is "privileges" which governments take away at their will. They just try and do it at the start of their term in the knowledge that it will be forgotten by re-election.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

If it concerns you - write (or email or phone) to your local federal member saying so. Remember, in a few years this could be used to suppress discussion on subjects you might be really interested in - for example, restrictions on four wheel drives to help meet emissions targets.

John

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Are there any members in particular that are more involved in this than others?