Noob with no time needs help.

**Judo** · 19th April 2012, 03:47 PM

There's not much electrically can go wrong with a D1. I've had mine a few years and haven't had any electrical problems. I have had a few "classic 300TDI issues" though - head gasket being the worst. Seems to be considered standard servicing to change the head gasket once you get over 200-250,000kms on a 300TDI or risk breaking down with little warning. The other is a timing belt every 80-100,000, but I guess you're probably aware of these with the RR.

Debatable whether D2 electrics are a serious concern (as per above posts). The fact is it has more electrics than a D1, therefore more people post issues. That doesn't mean most people have electrical issues - it just means they exist.

In the end if it's between a D1 and a D2 - if I was in your shoes and had adequate budget, I'd buy a late model D2 TD5 with the CDL installed.

**ade** · 19th April 2012, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by 400HPONGAS

What a load rubbish ,this old ,low technology,easy to fix BS is ,you lot are only justifying why you have a D1 . Jeez if a D2 is to Hard, how would would you go with a D3/D4 !!! If all that matters is Fixability ,then take the RR with 300TDI and put the 1957 on a trailer behind as well !Why not a defender ? has to be old one ,no TD5 or TC /ABS .Dont ferget to take a spare head complete assembly for the 300TDI ,they are Known problem with them !
Look at the Calendar ,its 2012 not 1965

touch a nerve did we? I didnt say a d2/3/4 is any harder to repair, just with electrics it cant always be fixed in remote areas, have a read of Landrovers manual for africa, plenty of ways to keep a 300tdi going when you would be stuck in a newer model
300tdi heads are only a problem when cars arent looked after, mines done 375 thoukms still on its original head.
1965 has nothing to do with it.

**gazby** · 19th April 2012, 09:21 PM

If you really want to know if a modern all electronic control vehicle is good for that 4wheel drive trip, just ask the guys at Seisia Motor repair workshop on the top of Cape York, check with them the number of "modern 4bee's" with electronic ignition/injection etc, etc and all the "bells and whistles" that get to complete the trip not by driving back, but as cargo on the barge back to Cairns along with many others every season after that trip up the OTL.
If you want a reliable 4wd for that special trip use the KISS rule, and keep it simple.
Just make sure you cover your bases and service the vehicle thoroughly before setting out.

**Tombie** · 20th April 2012, 12:08 AM

Bwahahaha Gasby...

That's like saying "look at all those flat tyres with no air in them"

Amazing people care so much about a land vehicle but will get in a fully electronic A380 and fly across an ocean...

**bigcarle** · 20th April 2012, 07:12 AM

i will put my 2 bobs worth in, i have no experience of the outback and some with a 300TDi, non with a TD5.
but IMHO you have the experience and spares for a 300TDi what with your collection of RR's so i would go for a D1 on the principal that you are most familiar with the 300TDi and dont have to learn new tricks to adapt to the TD5, and this also goes with the KISS principle
have a safe trip

goodwolverine · 3rd May 2012, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by bigcarle

i will put my 2 bobs worth in, i have no experience of the outback and some with a 300TDi, non with a TD5.
but IMHO you have the experience and spares for a 300TDi what with your collection of RR's so i would go for a D1 on the principal that you are most familiar with the 300TDi and dont have to learn new tricks to adapt to the TD5, and this also goes with the KISS principle
have a safe trip

I totally agree here, go with what you know. Who knows, it could make a difference if something does happen and you're by the side of the road scratching your head. What ever car you go with, just check it's structurally sound ie. chassis, suspension etc. and give it a good service before you take off. The rest is pretty much left to fate if you believe in such a thing. Take as many spares as you can gaskets, hoses, belts, pumps and a decent tool kit and you'll be right. Im assuming you're traveling with a few other rigs with capable humans aboard. I haven't had any electrical trouble with my D1 and the car in general is easy enough to work on.

good luck on your trip
don't accept lollies from strangers

**Blknight.aus** · 3rd May 2012, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by skuilnaam

Amazing people care so much about a land vehicle but will get in a fully electronic A380 and fly across an ocean...

Cept the a380 has triple redundancy and has much better maintenance regimes than your average landrover even if you do take it to dealers.

**Judo** · 3rd May 2012, 08:32 AM

With less electronics there's less chance of the Landy becoming self aware and wanting to destroy the world. Fact.

**steve_a** · 6th May 2012, 10:11 PM

I think if you get D2 onwards you *have* to invest in a few extra tools, most notably a diagnostics reader since you have so many more sensors and the only way of knowing what is being reported is via an OBD2 interface.
The D2 has issues with ABS/TC/HDC (three Amigos) but I reckon that can be fixed with rewiring the shuttle and replacing any defected sensors.

I've gotten to quite like having the OBD information on the laptop, and will slightly miss it as we transition back from the D2 V8 to the D1 300TDI.

The key differences are things like air suspension, I think it is such killer if it goes duff that I'd just feel wary of heading out with it unless I had a plan to fix it (e.g. patches or something).

Other 'issues' are that on the D2 a lot of jobs require bigger, proper tools, so small town or bush repair options might get complicated. I don't think the D1s have a job that can't be achieved with controlled application of a big hammer

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