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    Coolant tank pressurising

    Hi all

    This is a similar scenario to the 'overheating then pressure in the coolant expansion tank theme' but without the overheating bit...

    My 300TDi D1 has started to use an increasing amount of coolant, and last time I checked the level with the vehicle cold there was an unusual amount of pressure in the tank. Temp gauge seems to be running at normal level.

    The head, radiator, tank & waterpump were all replaced about 120K ago. Hasn't overheated since the work was done.

    I'm thinking head gasket, but before I go down that path - anyone have an alternative thought/suggestion.

    Or is it likely that head gaskets just go every hundred thousand or so?

    KevG

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    You can do a gas test on the coolant, also check for bubbles in tbe expansion tank and a new rad cap is cheap, just in case that isn't releasing at its designed pressure before you condemn the head gasket.
    BTW, do you know what type of gasket was used ?
    Composite or MLS ?

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    Thanks Rick

    I'll try a cap first...

    Not sure what was put in to be honest - it was done by a reputable Canberra Landy mechanic. Didn't know much about them at the time so didn't think to ask.

    Ive read/heard good things about MLS - so if the cap doesnt fix it up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevG View Post
    Thanks Rick

    I'll try a cap first...

    Not sure what was put in to be honest - it was done by a reputable Canberra Landy mechanic. Didn't know much about them at the time so didn't think to ask.

    Ive read/heard good things about MLS - so if the cap doesnt fix it up...
    My first head gasket (LR original composite) blew at over 400,000klms (odometer stopped working at 387K), IMO the head gasket blows because the head warps between 2 and 3 cylinders and the gasket blows.
    Was the case with mine and many others I have read of on this Forum, even after machining the head the new composite H/G blew shortly after. Replaced with good quality composite H/G but didn't remachine head, gasket blew again, so replaced composite gasket with steel shim gasket and still unmachined head and have had no problem since. IMO the warping of the head causes the composite gasket to blow, even after machining the head the gasket blew again in the same spot and the depression in the head was back. I believe the composite gasket cannot handle the warped head, whereas, in my case at least the steel shim gasket is standing up well after nearly 2 years of use (Knock on wood), Regards Frank.

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    Basic checks before head gasket are:
    -check for leaks (even if everything is relatively new)
    -new cap as Rick suggested
    -check for bubbles in expansion tank

    However I still think head gasket is most likely.

    If the head gasket has started to leak, but not completely blown, it will not appear to overheat (especially with factory temp gauge), but will still use coolant and increase the cooling system pressure. Unfortunately it still points to head gasket going VERY soon. Catching it at this point is actually great, because you can avoid the overheat and any further damage. Continuing to drive it without a more accurate temp gauge than the factory one is risking engine damage.
    - Justin

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    Thanks gents

    I have also had an hour or so Sunday tightening up all of the clamps on the hoses - a couple were a little loose. Took off the thermostat fill point and topped the coolant up - seemed to take a fair bit - maybe I just had an air lock. With everything topped up started the truck, warmed it up with the cap off - a bit of surging but no bubbling of concern. There were little bubbles that looked to be from the surge. Hand over the tank opening I couldn't feel a pressure build up. Heater was running nice and toasty in the car.

    I'm wondering if I have had a bit of an airlock as the result of a loose clamp...

    I've ordered a new cap so I'll drop that on when it arrives and see how it goes.

    KevG

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    Keep the old cap as a spare for emergencies, Regards Frank.

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    Fixed

    All a bit weird - got rid of the airlock, popped the new cap on and the coolant level has sat at the top of the level indicator post for the past couple of weeks.

    My best guess is that betweena faulty cap and a couple of loose clamps were at fault, glad i didn't go down the path of the head gasket.

    Thanks for the tips all

    KevG

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    That's a great result.
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    Question

    Something similar to my current prob which is cause of overheating .
    I think I've tried most of these little "finds" out i.e. -
    radiator rodded & cleaned, was quite blocked,
    engine flushed,
    still happening but not as bad or quick, so -
    new cap as LR shop said he'd never seen the cap (yellow) that was on it,
    still happening but seemed to get a bit better but..........
    engine bay & transmission tunnel still very hot but off & on
    top hose did seem to get a bit hard but don't really know what to compare it to??
    I did the start-up run for a bit then take cap off with motor running & the water level slowly increased till it over flowed. Turned motor off & it was like Mt Olympus erupting till bottle & I presume some of radiator emptied.
    I topped bottle up again & tried it again while just parked & nothing seemed to happen much.
    I am NOT losing ANY coolant at all nor was I at any time, any idea's guys??
    Thanks

    p.s. I have a thermostat ready to go in
    & which way does the coolant run from motor through radiator - bottom to top or visa versa
    Temp gauge is a bit "whatever", it can read normal (about 1/4) but engine bay & transmission tunnel will be bloody hot, then it will shoot up really quickly then at other times every things fine, GRRRRR

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