Reply With QuoteThanks, I might have to go down the same track. I could only get ignition buy turning the head lights on and off, cleaned every terminal possible , but now found wiggling the key works ...Gary
Master
Info for Disco 1 owners who may decide to replace ignition switch.
I had the proverbial problems with jiggling key for ever to start my 1999 300tdi Disco 1 so I decided to replace ignition switch assembly. Having read about it here and on other forums it didn't seem to be to hard for someone with my limited mechanical skills. I duly purchased a new replacement Lucas assembly took it to local locksmith and had it keyed to suit old keys. Proceeded to remove old one. I easily removed shroud on top of steering wheel but struggled with bottom one, it eventually came adrift after brute force in a shower of plastic pieces. Sadly I was unaware of third screw which you can only see when you lower fuse cover. I know next time.
I easily removed blind bolts with hammer and chisel but was now stuck getting connectors apart age and cigarette smoke had welded them together not a worry, screwdriver and hammer soon sorted. Now I notice strange wires soldered to ignition wires but have no idea what they are for, wire snippers fixed that.
Removing old assembly I installed new one. Beep beep beep beep instant sounding of key in ignition chime, bummer. Push key in and out no change, beep beep beep needs to be sorted cant drive with all that racket. Remove new assembly, nothing obvious. Put old one back in all ok. Did some basic continuity checks on new one and discovered that chime wires are constantly on,key in or out. Check old one, wires on when key in, off when out.
Long story short I returned assembly to locksmith and asked him to fix it as he had obviously stuffed something up. A very heated discussion ensued wherebye he denied all responsibility but refunded my money, dead end there. I finally compared with old one and noticed there is a small micro switch in assembly. When the locksmith had removed insides to re-key he had replaced barrel and in the process bent arm of micro switch so it was on all the time. You need to replace barrel with key in so that it misses the arm and continues to work properly.
A quick bend of arm and I was up and running with a lovely new switch assembly that works so well I am now able to make a quick getaway if I choose to rob a bank or something.
Wow this is very long winded, my apologies.
By the way the strange wires were for the after market sunroof which no longer works, that's next on the list to reconnect...Cheers
Master
Thanks, I might have to go down the same track. I could only get ignition buy turning the head lights on and off, cleaned every terminal possible , but now found wiggling the key works ...Gary
ForumSage
Would your problem have been the key goes in...but won't turn?- ie, the key is'nt 100% operating all of the tumblers so as to unlock. NOT the steering lock mechanism...
My fix so far is putting the key in/out many times...., slamming sterring lock, muttering Japanese curses....till the lock UNlocks and we're away.
'95 Classic
- which may have similar key-barrel to the D1...
Master
Hi Superquag,Originally Posted by superquag
My problem was if I inserted the key as normal, there was no way it would turn. I had to pull the key back out about 5mm (yes that much) and then jingle it to turn. It would also only work if it was the right way up. In theory it shouldn't matter which way round it is but in my case it did. I actually marked one edge of the key so it was inserted the same way each time. I had an unused spare key, exactly the same problem hence had to be the mechanism. Go figure...
Fossicker
CHANGE IT NOW!!!
It will sh+t itself very soon and you can guarantee that it will be on the third level of a multi story carpark that a tow truck can't get to. You will be parked up hard against a wall so you can't open the door fully to get at the column and the wheels will be locked in a direction that you can't roll it backwards AND you won't have any tools in the car. Ask me how I know??
Seriously, at the very least, undo or loosen the shear bolts so that you can easily removed the barrel and start the thing with a five cent piece to get home. Changing the barrel is a 10 minute job but keep in mind that all the barrels you get now are made in china or somewhere and a fault in my new one nearly drove me to dispair!!
John
ForumSage
Thanks, - Sounds similar to mine ...and getting worse.
Will have to move sooner than later as cursing of the car is having less effect...
And yes, I am a bit annoyed that a very ordinary piece of technology should fail on a (RRP) $95,000 car.
Master
The RRP was for the experience you will have gained mechanically over the years and they threw the car in for free, so you could get up to speed more quickly thus being able to assist the rest of us 24/7
And yes, I am a bit annoyed that a very ordinary piece of technology should fail on a (RRP) $95,000 car.
Last edited by OlliesLRover; 13th July 2013 at 09:34 AM. Reason: spelling
Master
Hahahahaha.The RRP was for the experience you will have gained mechanically over the years and they threw the car in for free, so you could get up to speed more quickly thus being able to assist the rest of us 24/7
ForumSage
... I pity the unfortunate Original Owner forking out the $$$s...
- Seeing tha ttoday it would cost him half that to buy a similar car that's twice as good...
Master
Had that happen to my son inlaws Disco. Paid $180 to have them come out and repair the original barrel on site. They said to me when I asked them what they did to repair it "bring the car to us when it first hints of this happening and we can repair it for $45" It is a simple fix.
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