Thread: Auto to Manual Conversion.

Did I start something here??!!

I have a 300tdi auto, I would have preferred a manual, but it came up at the right price, so I grabbed it.

acceleration, I'm not sure, but it seems to out drag dad's 130 and his has a 3" pipe and 'cooler.

the auto should be much gentler on the drivetrain.

it can change up or down gears mid climb with losing momentum or risking breaking something.

it appears to get the same fuel consumption as dad's 130.

the old 4-speed ZF are very readily available, cheap to rebuild and generally bullet proof if you keep them cool (just like any auto).

I have perfect control over what gear it's in by using my right foot position. I know what position to have the pedal in to make it kick down, plua you can feel the kick down "switch" near the floor (WOT). You can also hold it in any gear using the selector.

the only downside is going down hill supposedly, but to be honest, if you hold it in low 1st it's a much of a muchness compared to the manual. Plus there are kits to operate the torque converter lock-up manually, so you can hold it any gear and have no slip through the converter.

Originally Posted by MR LR

I'd accept being called a ****** over that... but otherwise I don't see your point? I'm sure you would have done some stupid things when you were young, on the plus I learnt how to re-build a diesel, I know what I did then was young and stupid, I've learnt, if anything it has given me more experience. Your point is moot, bugger off.

Gav, I apologise, the troll comment was not directed at you, in the sense I meant "are you trolling me", poor wording, it was not intended as a personal attack.

My point is your arguing with ppl on here thats have forgotten more about landrovers than you will ever learn, how old are you 19, 20 maybe, im sorry but 2 years driving auto or manual, your still learning, sure I have done stupid things everyone has and no I would not clasify you as a ****** for that mistake, a ****** would have done it on purpose, an amatuer has no idea...

I can't believe all the fuss over gearbox choice! Both auto and manual have strengths and weaknesses. Having driven manuals exclusively for 30 years I now have an auto and am quite happy with it. It does what it needs to do quite well. And if I get desperate for clutch shudder I still have the manual car to put back on the road one day.

Chill guys, it's a personal preference thing, not a federal election.

Except a 300tdi doesn't have an electric auto gearbox, so the torque converter lock up is very exxy!

I liked my 300tdi auto for driving around town, but it would be unbearable with the number of highway k's I do ATM.

The thing I hates the most was it lurching, such as when rock crawling, it tended to lurch over obstacles, meaning you had to drive with two feet for any type of crawling, I like manuals in that respect, which is why I choose to drive them.

The fact that they don't lock up in 3rd makes hills on the highway rubbish, I'm also a lead foot, fuel consumption was woeful around town, I don't want to alter my driving style, so I chose to get a manual.

It's all just personal preferences, I've experienced both, I'd pick both for different tasks, but overall I prefer my manual.

Yes you did start something

Cheers
Will

Its good to have a fired up thread every now and again, keeps the forum healthy ....

beers all roung Gentlemen

Now back to back to Landrovers.....

Originally Posted by Kevin B

My point is your arguing with ppl on here thats have forgotten more about landrovers than you will ever learn, how old are you 19, 20 maybe, im sorry but 2 years driving auto or manual, your still learning, sure I have done stupid things everyone has and no I would not clasify you as a ****** for that mistake, a ****** would have done it on purpose, an amatuer has no idea...

Hah! 2 years.

I'm not your average 19 year old, anyone that knows me could tell you that.

I learnt to drive in a 1942 Jeep, from the age of 10, on a farm and it had no brakes. Can you drive a crash box? If not I bet I could out-drive you. I've also driven dad's veteran cars a lot (big ones), and I'd class it twice as hard as driving a road ranger (I drive the Mack around the farm).

I've been driving dune buggys for the last 7 years (on the farm), I built my own in 2010.

If you want to tell me I'm inexperienced, come and meet me, watch what I can do, and then re-evaluate me. Until then feel free to STFU. Not all 19 year olds are the same, I don't know anyone like myself, my age, just because I'm not old and grey doesn't mean I don't know a thing or two, I admit I've been wrong in the past, but the things I am confident in are practiced.

Also, drowning the car was being a ******, I was trying to re-create a photo! I'm the first to admit that, it taught me a lesson in maintenance though, fix the air box when it breaks, the new car has a snorkel, but I'm less of a ****** with regards to water now, learnt that lesson.

Please tell me what experience has to do with preferences.

Originally Posted by MR LR

Hah! 2 years.

I'm not your average 19 year old, anyone that knows me could tell you that.

I learnt to drive in a 1942 Jeep, from the age of 10, on a farm and it had no brakes. Can you drive a crash box? If not I bet I could out-drive you. I've also driven dad's veteran cars a lot (big ones), and I'd class it twice as hard as driving a road ranger (I drive the Mack around the farm).

I've been driving dune buggys for the last 7 years (on the farm), I built my own in 2010.

If you want to tell me I'm inexperienced, come and meet me, watch what I can do, and then re-evaluate me. Until then feel free to STFU. Not all 19 year olds are the same, I don't know anyone like myself, my age, just because I'm not old and grey doesn't mean I don't know a thing or two, I admit I've been wrong in the past, but the things I am confident in are practiced.

Also, drowning the car was being a ******, I was trying to re-create a photo! I'm the first to admit that, it taught me a lesson in maintenance though, fix the air box when it breaks, the new car has a snorkel, but I'm less of a ****** with regards to water now, learnt that lesson.

Please tell me what experience has to do with preferences.

Im not interested in meeting you or seeing what you can do, in my job ive seen plenty of you lot wrapped around trees, Generation Y(awn) are to selfcentered and think they know it all just look at the above, "ive done this, Ive done that"..Blah blah blah.... yawn

Originally Posted by Kevin B

Im not interested in meeting you or seeing what you can do, in my job ive seen plenty of you lot wrapped around trees, Generation Y(awn) are to selfcentered and think they know it all just look at the above, "ive done this, Ive done that"..Blah blah blah.... yawn

Well put, Kev.