Advice on tyres

**Tank** · 16th July 2015, 03:21 PM

What makes this tyre seller bloke a ******, let me count the ways.
You asked him for an honest opinion of a brand of tyre he doesn't sell, he tells you that in 25 years of selling tyres he's only sold 1 set, yet he tells you they are the worst tyre ever made, what did he base this pearl of wisdom on.
Was it his wish to get as much money out of the deal as he could and sell you a tyre, that he gets a really good deal from the distributor on, therefore making more profit on.
Was he concerned for your safety if you fitted these nasty Nangkangs, these same Nangkangs that I clocked up 8 years and 70,000klms, trouble free service and others as well.
No this ****** seen $ signs so he rubbished (any other brand as well) a good quality tyre to sell you his best money making tyre.
This bloke is not rare most tyre dealers do it, so their opinion is not worth ****.
You came to the forum for unbiased, non vested interest advice and you got it.
If it had been me I would have then Googled up every 4WD tyre test I could find and made a decision from there, you said yourself that you shouldn't listen to a tyre salesman.
I call this bloke a ****** because his sole aim was to rip you off and he put down a tyre that is worthy of research by you, Regards Frank.

P.S. Just did some more research on Google looking for a Pic of a damaged Mudstar, didn't find one. It seems (from a number of sources) that Nankang Mudstars and Maxxis Buckshot not only have the same tread pattern but are both manufactured in the same Taiwanese factory, so the tyres you bought are probably close cousins to the mudstars.

Originally Posted by DAMINK

You call someone you have never met nor spoke to a ******.
I cant see how you would think that way.
Because he sells tyres? Is that what makes him a ****** or is it his opinion differs from yours?

He was not the limit of my research.
I did ask around, here for example and other tyre places and more generally mates. The fact you spoke so highly of them is what made me investigate them particular tyres further.
If i went blind and purchased i would never have even considered them because i had never heard of them before.
Did i get good feedback about them? No i didnt.
I am not saying there good nor bad. I honestly have no idea, thus why i asked.
Your the first one i have heard that has had issues with the maxxis, or your mate more accurately.
There is more factors to my purchase than simply brand.
The turn around time and ability to supply the rims i want was also a factor.
The one place that sold those nankangs was a lot more expensive for rims and the turnaround was longer.
And yes i will try post updates on there life span.

DAMINK · 17th July 2015, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Tank

What makes this tyre seller bloke a ******, let me count the ways.
You asked him for an honest opinion of a brand of tyre he doesn't sell, he tells you that in 25 years of selling tyres he's only sold 1 set, yet he tells you they are the worst tyre ever made, what did he base this pearl of wisdom on.

Read above. I asked a man who DOES sell this brand.
One more time. HE DOES SELL THAT BRAND!

**Tank** · 17th July 2015, 09:09 AM

Quote:"he tells you that in 25 years of selling tyres he's only sold 1 set".
nuff said, Regards frank

Originally Posted by DAMINK

Read above. I asked a man who DOES sell this brand.
One more time. HE DOES SELL THAT BRAND!

**460cixy** · 17th July 2015, 09:18 AM

I'm Curious as to why every one want to go to the 12.5 and not (in my opinion) 10.5 Instead

**Slunnie** · 17th July 2015, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by 460cixy

I'm Curious as to why every one want to go to the 12.5 and not (in my opinion) 10.5 Instead

That's a whole different debate to this thread. This thread is about Tank thinking the seller is a ******.

DAMINK · 17th July 2015, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Slunnie

That's a whole different debate to this thread. This thread is about Tank thinking the seller is a ******.

I got a giggle out of that comment.

**Fausto79** · 17th July 2015, 12:36 PM

A lot of people dis them but i have the Bridgestone Duellers 670ish or something like that and am very happy with them. they were already on the car when i got them and still have a shedload of tread on them. have got me to some very interesting places so perform well offroad. standard disco size.

also do well onroad and in the wet. not sure why they get a bad rep, they have done me well. once they are done i will try out bfg 245/75. can get them well priced. i used them extensively in the WA and NT deserts and can vouch for them.

used to put hankooks on my old nissan. they were a decent tyre. cant comment for the 4wd ones but the road ones were good. and they do a fair bit of marketing, contradicting an earlier comment. watch motorsports and you will see.

**Tank** · 17th July 2015, 07:25 PM

The skinny vs. fat rears up again, I believe that wider than stock tyres will offer more traction, with less weight (PSI) on the ground, they have a larger footprint and they look reealy cool.
They will increase the safe carrying capacity of your 4WD, for example my work truck (Inter. ACCO) can legally carry a heavier load with 11x22 tubeless tyres and rims over the stock 10x20 rims and tyres.
I have a test sand dune hidden behind our local beach, only one size tyre has made it over the top, with that being the widest tyre 33x12.5x15/MT fitted to my 300TDi Disco, previous tyre was 31x10x15 achieved just over halfway, before that was the 93 V8 Disco with Cooper discovery M/T eq. 800x16, got about 1/4 way up.
All 3 tests were done with f&r difflocks and C/D locked and with 4.11 gearing.
I have no problem with skinny tyres, except they look crap, I like Fat tyres and have never had a problem with them, Regards Frank.

Originally Posted by 460cixy

I'm Curious as to why every one want to go to the 12.5 and not (in my opinion) 10.5 Instead

**Fausto79** · 18th July 2015, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Tank

The skinny vs. fat rears up again, I believe that wider than stock tyres will offer more traction, with less weight (PSI) on the ground, they have a larger footprint and they look reealy cool.
They will increase the safe carrying capacity of your 4WD, for example my work truck (Inter. ACCO) can legally carry a heavier load with 11x22 tubeless tyres and rims over the stock 10x20 rims and tyres.
I have a test sand dune hidden behind our local beach, only one size tyre has made it over the top, with that being the widest tyre 33x12.5x15/MT fitted to my 300TDi Disco, previous tyre was 31x10x15 achieved just over halfway, before that was the 93 V8 Disco with Cooper discovery M/T eq. 800x16, got about 1/4 way up.
All 3 tests were done with f&r difflocks and C/D locked and with 4.11 gearing.
I have no problem with skinny tyres, except they look crap, I like Fat tyres and have never had a problem with them, Regards Frank.

skinny tyres are better in mud. diameter size makes a big difference, not so much width.

on sand its all about balooning your tyres to get as much surface area on the sand to float on top. so wider tyres might be better but not essential.

different concepts.

i personally find wide tyres look too boganish. sort of thing you see patrol drivers do.

the 235 and 245 profiles match the landrover well i think. more refined for the type of drivers we are.

DiscoMick · 18th July 2015, 12:17 PM

Isn't longer more important than wider? On sand, a taller tyre will have a longer footprint and float more, whereas a wider tyre has to push more sand in front of it and tends to dig in more, particularly if it has a chunky tread.

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