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    300TDi EGT probe position?

    so i had fitted to my 1998 300TDi auto Disco an Autotechnica
    combo gauge of Boost and EGT, to make a long story short it has not
    worked properly since i have had it and i have replace everything
    probe, wiring, gauge. it now reads but erratically and inaccuratly
    the sparky thinks it could be the position of the probe, took it to a local exhaust
    mob and he agrees it is in a weird place and they both think the inner of the probe might be melting.
    the probe is located in the cast section 2 inches higher than the flange.
    both the sparky and exhaust bloke reckon it should be in the pipe BELOW the flange by about 2 inches
    could they be right?

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    Mine is here. It works fine. Not sure of the brand though, Maybe that is the problem. But everyone I have spoken to suggest that pre turbo is where you want it.

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    As per johntins' picture, most people fit the probe in the blanking plate and they survive just fine. It's highly unlikely that you've melted a probe, they are good for much more than what a 300TDi can do. However it could be a faulty probe, I had one that failed just after fitting and was replaced under warranty. They're not very dear in any case. Example:

    2M EGT K Type Thermocouple Exhaust Probe High Temperature Sensors Threads New | eBay

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    Yep, the blanking plate is where mine is too.

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    Easiest location by a long way.
    My only problem(dunno if others have/had the same), but the probe length was too long to fit once the probe was mounted on the plate and tryign to bolt the plate back up again.
    So some gentle persuasion on the probe's heat element with a pair of pliers, curved to match the profile of manifold making sure that the inner probe didn't touch the cast iron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    Easiest location by a long way.
    My only problem(dunno if others have/had the same), but the probe length was too long to fit once the probe was mounted on the plate and tryign to bolt the plate back up again.
    So some gentle persuasion on the probe's heat element with a pair of pliers, curved to match the profile of manifold making sure that the inner probe didn't touch the cast iron.
    Easier is to pilot drill the plate above the centre line then drill/tap at an angle so that the tip doesn't touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Easier is to pilot drill the plate above the centre line then drill/tap at an angle so that the tip doesn't touch.
    My plate was looking rusty and crappy, so my plan was to replace it.
    Found one on fleabay probe bung ready, so the location of the probe bung was already setup by someone that didn't know how to account for various sized(ie. length) probes.

    But, had my plate been less crappy looking .. and I'd got a blank requiring some of my elbow grease .. for sure I'd have planned it the way you describe.
    Arthur.

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    I fitted mine (same brand as yours), as per johntins picture, however the EGT gauge only gave a reading for about four days, then stopped. The gauge still did it's little dance on start-up (Needles up to max then back to rest)
    I contacted the supplier and was told there had been a dud batch of probes supplied to Australia and he immediately offered a replacement by mail.
    That arrived two or three days later and the gauge has been operating perfectly since.
    Don.

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    If i had installed the probe that indeed is where i would have put it.
    but i have sent the gauge back to Melbourne and they tested it and found it fine and sent it
    back with a new probe which it has been fitted with (current) the first probe was dead,
    So what has been replaced is gauge, probe, wiring and it is still reading wrong thinking there is
    wrong placement of the probe is all we can think of what would be stuffing up

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    I guess the other thing to check for is the cabling from probe to gauge.
    If it's going through the firewall via an access hole that is bare metal, maybe it's chafing the wire and shorting out or something like that.
    Continuing on from this, maybe the wiring has been placed next to some high voltage/high current wire, which could affect it's reading in some way.

    Out of interest, what sort of 'wrong' reading are you getting?
    ie. is it low or is it too high.

    You said that it's located on the cast section, two inches higher than the flange.
    Is that the egr/blanking plate flange, or the manifold to downpipe flange.
    I doubt that it's getting too hot and melting. Looking at the specs for an average K type thermocouple, they're good for up to 1300°C.
    Of you're getting a melting probe, then you've probably melted all your valves and pistons and ... well everything!

    If it's mounted 2" higher above the downpipe flange/joint, this means it's mounted after the turbo wastegate, which (IIRC) means that temp readings can be about 200°C below those you get from before the turbo.
    (ie. if the accepted max limit for an EGT reading at the EGR blanking plate = ~700°C, then the accepted limit for after turbo EGT temps = ~500°C).
    Arthur.

    All these discos are giving me a heart attack!

    '99 D1 300Tdi Auto ( now sold :( )
    '03 D2 Td5 Auto
    '03 D2a Td5 Auto

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