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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    Did you have the reservoir cap on?
    If so, maybe the lack of additional air pressure on the higher water level in the reservoir(ie. a partial vacuum) could have stopped the flow out the radiator?
    Dunno! every time I open the rad plug, I also have the reservoir cap off too.. and it flows out.
    Other possible reasons is the level in the reservoir. While it's not a lot higher, it's still higher than the top of the rad, and a full reservoir should drain out with the rad cap off.

    'good' to see some rust on that sensor doodad .. to be sure! not good that it's rusted! .. good in the sense that hopefully it's the source of your annoying issue.

    What I do for the rad: reservoir cap off, rad bung(or in your case, the sensor) half on/off so that it leaks.
    Fill reservoir continuously so that you get a flow out of the half fitted rad cap.
    In a sense, your trying to expel any air in the rad too. Hopefully the rad sensor cap thing is an easy hand tightening job too and as you pour water/coolant into the reservoir slowly tighten the rad cap too.

    With that rust on the sensor, there is a possibility that you may have rusty scale build up in your coolant system too. If so, it could clog up the rad.

    **additional useless info **
    A few weeks ago my CEM products came in the mail and the first thing I did was to test the coolant flush stuff. Left it in for a day or so to circulate around then did a flush with the garden hose.
    Old coolant came out much more brown that I used to see it in the reservoir which was basically clean water(I've been using straight water for the past year or so).
    So this CEM stuff has definitely cleaned something out of the cooling system. When I flushed the rad too, in both directions with the hose, brown coloured water came out from the bottom hose port, but clear water coming out of the top!
    Obviously some build up in the bottom of the rad. I reckon I had to back flush the rad at least 10-15 mins alternating between forward and back flushing to clear the flow out the bottom.
    Engine basically flowed clean, with some residual green coolant in there.

    Actually ended up with a bit of an improvement in coolant temps, which was what I'm chasing .. only with thee A/C on.
    Without A/C on, coolant temps stick to high 70's - low 80's without fail, no matter the engine load.

    With A/C, in mid 30's ambient, coolant would easily pass 100°C on an easy cruise. Add even a slight rise in the road, and 105° would come quickly and then the dash gauge would climb towards the red, never actually go into the red .. just an indication that it's warming up.
    I'd have to both back off almost totally, and turn A/C off and it'd settle back down to about mid to high 90's for a long while after that.. it was hard to moderate the use of the A/C as it's get hot so quickly with it on .. etc.

    Other week I went for a bit of a drive .. lots of 40°C ambients between Cobar/Wilcannia/Broken Hill/and Menindee.
    I got many instances of 700°C EGT temps which had me backing right off and dropping into 3rd(auto) to keep them in check, but coolant temp never passed 100°C and only hit that 100°C temp for a split sec. Mainly sat at about 95-97°C according to the data log.

    I suspect that the bottom of the rad was partially blocked!

    Did the chap in Monbulk give the coolant a refresh/flush/etc? was that part of the service?
    Did he refill with coolant? ie. do you have coolant in the system.
    I'd suggest(with the rust on that sensor) to give the coolant a flush while you're there doing all this other stuff.

    ps. you can run straight water too .. don't really need coolant, they say it supposed to help with boiling point level, but the trick is to not allow it to get to boiling point!
    Like I said, I've been running straight water for over a year now.
    Will eventually top with coolant(got a large 20lt drum of it now) .. just been lazy and more accurately I'm still in between flushing phases AND trying to get off the posterior to do my silicon hoses change.
    Yep the other caps were all still on so I guess there is no other hole to allow anything out of the system, even though it may be lower in height.

    The radiator got totally taken out and flushed and checked and had it's own personal pampering service done on it. Apparently it was 40% blocked but still in great nick so they gave it a good proper clean out and put it back on and put all new coolant (with all new hoses as well) and bled the system etc. etc. So I've got no doubts the radiator is clean and lovely.

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    Mine did this all the time as i said before, i put a 10mm longer bolt in the sensor to stop the alarm intermittently going off until warm.

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    Slight problem...Can't get the thermostat plug out at all and I think I damaged it a little bit more Super annoying low coolant alarm going off until car warms up (earth issue??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Angus View Post
    Yep the other caps were all still on so I guess there is no other hole to allow anything out of the system, even though it may be lower in height.

    The radiator got totally taken out and flushed and checked and had it's own personal pampering service done on it. Apparently it was 40% blocked but still in great nick so they gave it a good proper clean out and put it back on and put all new coolant (with all new hoses as well) and bled the system etc. etc. So I've got no doubts the radiator is clean and lovely.
    When I first got my D2a it was running a bit hot so I had my radiator "Rodded" by Natrad for about $500, They then filled up the system with a Glycol based coolant which had to be replaced because this type of coolant is unsuitable for the 4l V8 and was told that it can cause head gasket failures.
    The head gaskets DID fail a couple of years later, I am not convinced that the incorrect coolant was the cause of this but it only takes that one extra straw to break a camels back
    I recently had a brand new radiator fitted for about $300 as part of the engine rebuild because the old radiator was now RS So Not only did I waste $500 at Natrad I had to add another $50 worth of coolant at the time as well.
    Tarting up an old radiator may be a good idea on an old "Banger" that you are just using to mess about with around town or out the back paddock But I personally am not now convinced that it is a good idea for something that you want to take on an extended trip or to remote areas.
    It can also work out less expensive to replace the radiator with a new one than getting the old one fixed up as well
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    Yeh, the sensor looks a little shorter than the V8 version in the top hose that I have.
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    Wow. I've been following this thread for awhile now and it is quite long!

    Anyway after all these posts, and at the chance of being non WH&S savvy, for my D1 which also did this, I replaced the sensor screw with one 10mm longer from local chandlery store and to bleed the system I just ran the engine with the screw out and filled the reservoir. Eventually coolant came out of the sensor thread and I put the screw in.

    Just my $0.02 Super annoying low coolant alarm going off until car warms up (earth issue??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Angus View Post
    Slight problem...Can't get the thermostat plug out at all and I think I damaged it a little bit more Super annoying low coolant alarm going off until car warms up (earth issue??)
    Plastic or brass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Angus View Post
    Slight problem...Can't get the thermostat plug out at all and I think I damaged it a little bit more Super annoying low coolant alarm going off until car warms up (earth issue??)
    Give the top of the plug a few light taps with a hammer to loosen it up a bit, Then undo it.
    What are you using to undo that mangled plug?
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    GOT IT!!

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    All pretty full too

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