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    Noisy clutch/gearbox

    i had a noisy clutch start today, but it only seems to happen in 1st or second. But it is not the normal throw out bearing noise, it is like when you try to put the box into gear and the clutch does not have enough clearance - that grinding/crunching type noise. But it only occurs when you start to engage the clutch.

    I am wondering if it might be to selectors allowing one of the other gears to near engage? I drove it home 60k and not a noise when it is running and it seems to have largely disappeared. Has any one had the selectors come loose?

    Any ideas?

    P.S. it's R380 behind a 300tdi. Clutch replaced about 7-8 months ago ( new everything including HD fork)

    Thanks,
    Tom.

    P.P.S. When I say 'engage the clutch', I mean that I am letting my foot up.
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    This is the noise it's making (at the end of the clip). It happens just as you let the clutch out.

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    So it means a whole lotta work for a $5 - $10 part! Put a new one in when I did the clutch. Grrr.
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    Did you leave it dipped in oil overnight? The brass spigot bush i mean? Not sure why the comment on YouTube says spigot bush though. I don’t see how it would make that noise. Sounds more like gears grinding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fausto79 View Post
    Did you leave it dipped in oil overnight? The brass spigot bush i mean? Not sure why the comment on YouTube says spigot bush though. I don’t see how it would make that noise. Sounds more like gears grinding.
    Yes, I think that you will find the noise IS gears grinding, simply because the primary shaft is still turning / dragging around because of a failed or dry spigot bush. The clutch will release but the shaft is still turning slowly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Farang View Post
    Yes, I think that you will find the noise IS gears grinding, simply because the primary shaft is still turning / dragging around because of a failed or dry spigot bush. The clutch will release but the shaft is still turning slowly.
    Yes, working on getting the old bush out now - it is shot to pieces . Have to carefully use a centre punch and chisel to split it to get it out. I tried an internal puller with a good size slide hammer a few times, but it just laughed at me. I'm not laughing back though my sense of humour just doesn't go that far .

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fausto79 View Post
    Did you leave it dipped in oil overnight? The brass spigot bush i mean? Not sure why the comment on YouTube says spigot bush though. I don’t see how it would make that noise. Sounds more like gears grinding.
    I think I left it in oil, but I can't remember for sure. It did receive a good covering with a quality HP oil as well. But it is certainly shot. Still working on getting it out.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by BathurstTom View Post
    Yes, working on getting the old bush out now - it is shot to pieces . Have to carefully use a centre punch and chisel to split it to get it out. I tried an internal puller with a good size slide hammer a few times, but it just laughed at me. I'm not laughing back though my sense of humour just doesn't go that far . Cheers, Tom.
    I remember you posting a few months ago when you last had the engine out to do the clutch. Like the old saying goes: "if it wasn't for bad luck, we wouldn't be having ANY".

    Years since I did anything with clutches, but it is a good idea to scrape a small chamfer on the inside of the bush after you have fitted it into the flywheel. More so if you do not have the correct splined alignment tool when installing the clutch. And of course it goes without saying that the shaft itself has no score marks etc. on the spigot. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Farang View Post
    I remember you posting a few months ago when you last had the engine out to do the clutch. Like the old saying goes: "if it wasn't for bad luck, we wouldn't be having ANY".

    Years since I did anything with clutches, but it is a good idea to scrape a small chamfer on the inside of the bush after you have fitted it into the flywheel. More so if you do not have the correct splined alignment tool when installing the clutch. And of course it goes without saying that the shaft itself has no score marks etc. on the spigot. Cheers.
    Yep, i put a small chamfer on the bush. I also used an alignment tool - although it wasn't the best, but it certainly had it close!

    Cheers,
    Tom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BathurstTom View Post
    Yes, working on getting the old bush out now - it is shot to pieces . Have to carefully use a centre punch and chisel to split it to get it out. I tried an internal puller with a good size slide hammer a few times, but it just laughed at me. I'm not laughing back though my sense of humour just doesn't go that far .

    Cheers,
    Tom.
    Sometimes you can fill it with grease and then put rod or punch of same size as hole in it and give it some wacks with hammer and it comes out. Didn’t work for me. Ended up using chisel and hammer and slowly chipping away at it until it split.

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    A thread tap with a larger OD than the bush ID works wonders to remove old spigot bushes.

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