Thread: Rear Lights

I don't think that the rear tail stop IS required for all others to work.
I've had that one out and had working indicator and reverse lights.

I also found that access to the actual light units were in the too hard basket, and when I had a case of crapola bulbs blowing out straight after a new one fitted, I spat my dummy out and got all LEDs for all lights.
Hard part was the indicators as they only work with a little resistance, so all LED indicators is a problem unless you get an LED specific flasher unit(relay).
AFAIK, I could only find one for Defenders, which plugs into the D1's pin layout, but the unit shape/size isn't correct, so made some fly lead wires and remotely mounted it under the dash.
Anyhow, took a while to finally get it all sorted(also finding the right type of tail/stop LED bulbs too).
I think close to 2 years now, no blown bulbs .. save my hands a million and two lacerations!

Can't be sure on the next part, but I think there is a plug that comes across from the RHS(drivers) over to the LHS(pass) to power the lights on the left.

What year is yours?
Mine's a very late model(98 build, 99 sale date) .. and my globes are tail/stop, indicator, reverse and fog.

Anyhow, something to look for could be the earth point too.
On the LHS, it appears to use a different earthing point than the RHS and centre high mount stop light. So RHS brake and centre mount use the same earth point on the RHS.
LHS uses it's own. is mounted behind the trim panel, may be accessible via the light access hatch about the same height as the bottom of the rear windows. Seems to be more on the side of the vehicle between light unit and rear side window.
If you have RAVE's electrical library, look for E400 earth point.

From what I can see: rear left tail globe seem to come of fuse F2
right tail globe comes off Fuse F8
Stop globes comes off Fuse F15 which is technically the stop light switch.

One other thing I noticed this morning is when indicating left, it ticks faster as though a globe isn’t working but all left hand indicator lights flash. I thought maybe coz the bumper is off at the moment but the right side flashes at the correct speed.

Originally Posted by Fausto79

One other thing I noticed this morning is when indicating left, it ticks faster as though a globe isn’t working but all left hand indicator lights flash. I thought maybe coz the bumper is off at the moment but the right side flashes at the correct speed.

So rear left cluster work .. or at least the indicator does.
Rear bumper indicator needs to be working too, and also the small repeater on the front quarter panel too. If either of them are blown, you should get the faster flashing.

Originally Posted by AK83

So rear left cluster work .. or at least the indicator does.
Rear bumper indicator needs to be working too, and also the small repeater on the front quarter panel too. If either of them are blown, you should get the faster flashing.

But why does right rear indicator flash normally? Bumper is off completely.

Originally Posted by Fausto79

But why does right rear indicator flash normally? Bumper is off completely.

Got a bullbar?

Originally Posted by Tombie

Got a bullbar?

yep. come to think of it. one of lights on there isnt working.

still trying to solve why all the other lights arent working on that side. might re-do the top brake/tail light and see if getting it on right will fix issue.

Originally Posted by Fausto79

But why does right rear indicator flash normally? Bumper is off completely.

Aha! good point.
Only other thing I can think of is maybe a globe or two isn't fully 21w .. dunno! Just guessing really.
Other than the flasher unit, can't think of anything else.

If you have a bullbar, and it has indicator lights on it(which it most likely will, I can't see how it'd affect the flasher/multifunction unit's speed.
(I think I saw that the multifunction unit is supposed to operate the indicators in some way too).

I know if you have a bullbar and you install incandescent globes as indicators, it'll show the trailer indicator light on the dash.
Usually LED globes on the bullbar will get rid of that.

But when I mucked about with my LED globe conversion, I know that if the bumper mount flasher globes aren't in, unit flashes faster, LED wouldn't work in that spot at all, unless I fitted a resistor to them.
Dunno why, maybe my D1 is a bit 'mucked about with' in a strange manner.
Fitted the LEDs + the LED flasher can, and now they work.

Made another observation. When the lights are on, the right side that works turns off when i press the brakes. So that only the top centre light comes on when braking. But with lights off the right and middle brake lights come on.

Have no idea. Sounds earthy?