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Thread: New Head, New Noise

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    Anjay74 Guest

    Smile New Head, New Noise

    Land Rover Noise.mp4

    Hello

    So we've installed a new head in our 1997 Disco 1 300 TDI. Everything went smoothly. Except when we started it and waited till it warmed up and as we drove off it started making a noise and a knock. It only happens when the vehicle is warmed up and revving.

    We've taken the rocker cover back off, we've taken the rocker assembly off and checked all the push rods, they're fine. Checked all the tappets (many times at various stages) and they're set correctly. We had 1 cylinder that when you loosened off the injector line it sprayed diesel out but the engine didn't change, traced that back to a loose connection and it appears to be fine now.

    We feel like the problem isn't internal but not 100%.

    Hopefully the video uploaded? And I was wondering if anyone knows what it is? Heard or had it happen before?

    Ange

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    No Idea but can't see the video.

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    Most likely an exhaust leak. The manifolds can be tricky to get sealed. Do you know what brand manifold gasket you used?

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    If you can't upload the video here (I can't see it either), put it on youtube and post a link here.

    Tom.
    1996 Disco 1 300TDI manual - Lucille a cantankerous red head! :D
    1997 Disco 1 300TDI Auto - sold

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    Thanks for the advice. Here's a link to the video

    YouTube

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    Well it's a rattle - not a bearing. Seems a little intermittent too - not necessarily going up and down with the revs. Perhaps @blknight might be able to help? Did you have the injector pump off? Are the front bolt (injector pump) tight? They can be checked by remove the timing cover/AC belt adjuster.

    Tom.
    1996 Disco 1 300TDI manual - Lucille a cantankerous red head! :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by BathurstTom View Post
    Well it's a rattle - not a bearing. Seems a little intermittent too - not necessarily going up and down with the revs. Perhaps @blknight might be able to help? Did you have the injector pump off? Are the front bolt (injector pump) tight? They can be checked by remove the timing cover/AC belt adjuster.

    Tom.

    We haven't had the injector pump off. We will check the bolts anyway. I've messaged blknight so hopefully we can get an answer 😀

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red90 View Post
    Most likely an exhaust leak. The manifolds can be tricky to get sealed. Do you know what brand manifold gasket you used?
    I don't know sorry 😬

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    Yours sounds different to what I had a little while ago, but it seems to be at idle, disappearing with a little bit of engine speed.
    Does it happen if you hold revs at say 1000RPM?

    Anyhow, mine was a deeper knocking noise, not a higher pitched tapping/clicky type sound.
    Mine drove me mad as I pulled lots of stuff down, thought itwas power steering pump, then noticed the water pump pulley is slightly out of round(it's not, it's the alignment of the water pump flange!).
    New exhaust manifold, pulled more stuff down. then saw the culprit one day with the fan off.
    Stupid fan belt adjuster was hitting at full extension on it's rest stop. Only happened at idle, a few revs(eg. 900 or 1000RPM) smoothed out the rougher idle conditions and the belt didn't flex so much so that the adjuster didn't top out on itself.
    So I thought it was a duff adjuster. Changed that zero difference!
    Arrgghhhh!

    What I did to test tho, was with fan off, engine idling and knocking, I used a socket to flex the adjuster a mm or so looser(not off, just less tight). So while it was idling, when it knocked, me having just a very small amount of pressure on the adjuster stopped the noise. I think it's a 15mm socket. BUT! you need to have the fan off.

    Never thought that a standard supposedly correct sized serpentine belt would make such a difference, but this was the culprit. A $20 belt. Turned out that a new Gates belt wasn't exactly as specified in it's length specs.
    Got a new belt of ebay(different looking Gates to what I got locally) came from the UK. See here for more details.
    The older Gates belt I took off was still pretty new(less than 1K lms), just a few mm longer, which allowed the adjuster to fully extend and knock. Noise now gone.

    From the sound tho, I'd say this (probably)isn't your issue, but check everything that doesn't cost you any $s.
    Also, just in case you have this issue, you can see that the two bump stops on the adjuster will be touching on every clacking sound.
    Don't rely on the static position of the adjuster/belt tho. Mine had a nice enough gap when stationary .. it was only at idle that it bounced about so much.

    Can you get the fan off? if you have the tool, then another way to confirm this would be a video of the fanbelt/adjuster area.

    Other things to check are the tightness of bolts for the fan pulleys, AC pulley(s) .. too.
    Arthur.

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    drop the eleastic bands off first. start it and see what it does.

    pull the glow plugs and do a compression test.

    Check the manfiold gaskets as suggested

    check for a sticky rocker.

    check the head gasket is true on the block, I've seen them go on some engines squiffed and the piston hits the comp ring.

    you could also have a failed injector seal.
    Dave

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