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    D1 spare alloy wheel - hmmm

    Hi,

    I just got my hands on a spare alloy wheel (the normal 'tornado' type) for my D1. I previously had a steel spare but just never liked the look of the cover plate.

    The old steel rim was held on by wheel nuts that had a hole in the middle so that you could screw them on as far as needed. The alloy wheel nuts are capped at the end so they can only be screwed on so far.

    Now, when I mount the spare alloy wheel and tighten up the alloy wheel nuts, they don't screw in far enough to secure the wheel before they hit the capped end of the nut.

    To fix this, I could use spacers behind the wheel to bring the wheel forward, I could cut the ends of the wheel bolts off shortening them, I could add washers to the alloy wheel nuts, or I could use the old steel rim wheel nuts.

    All these solutions have their pros and cons, so what have another people done.

    Are there two base plates that the spare wheel attaches to, one for steel rims and one for alloys, with different length bolts?

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    You need 3 of WA116101L. It's just a spacer behind the wheel so you can make your own.


    Unless you feel like spending $10 at a dealer for the genuine article .
    Scott

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    my solution was to put the old wheel nuts back on, then a huge washer on each stud...

    now the spare alloy fits and is held on tight with the "alloy wheel-wheel nuts".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse View Post
    You need 3 of WA116101L. It's just a spacer behind the wheel so you can make your own.
    So there is a factory spacer that goes with an alloy spare! Thanks Scouse.

    I'm not keen on a spacer though as it will cause the spare wheel to sit out further.

    Quote Originally Posted by sschmez View Post
    my solution was to put the old wheel nuts back on, then a huge washer on each stud...

    now the spare alloy fits and is held on tight with the "alloy wheel-wheel nuts".
    As sschmez said a large washer on the alloy wheel nuts is also my preference, then the wheel will still be held tight by the alloy wheel nut and can also sit as close as possible to the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nice1guv View Post
    As sschmez said a large washer on the alloy wheel nuts is also my preference, then the wheel will still be held tight by the alloy wheel nut and can also sit as close as possible to the car.
    Sorry nice1guv, my description may not have been clear....

    The original "steel wheel-wheel nut" and washer go on the stud first, then the spare wheel - which is then held on tight by the "alloy wheel-wheel nuts"...

    the spare sits slightly further out then previously.

    Stevo

    The only reason for the big washer is because the holes in the alloy wheel nearly swallow the "steel wheel-wheel nuts" whole, and damage to the back of the wheel could result.

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    The alloy wheel on my Disco1 is held on by nuts that have no backs to them. They are alloy nuts but you can see the stud when you look down the hole.
    There are no spacers of any kind behind my wheel.



    As you can see there are two different types of nuts.
    There are two of these black ones.


    Plus a silver one. This looks like it has been drilled out as the edge of the hole has a twisted up bit.

    As you can see the silver one is longer in the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sschmez View Post
    Sorry nice1guv, my description may not have been clear....

    The original "steel wheel-wheel nut" and washer go on the stud first, then the spare wheel - which is then held on tight by the "alloy wheel-wheel nuts"...

    the spare sits slightly further out then previously.

    Stevo

    The only reason for the big washer is because the holes in the alloy wheel nearly swallow the "steel wheel-wheel nuts" whole, and damage to the back of the wheel could result.
    Must admit I was a little confused by your first post.

    I too tried using the steel wheel nut as a spacer, but didn't have anything to hand to act as a large washer to stop the wheel swallowing the nut.

    I have now found some washers to use as spacers behind the wheel, so I think I may just use them for now and the alloy wheel nuts.

    Ultimately I would prefer some washers over the alloy wheel nuts so that the wheel sits closer to the rear, but I guess the difference of 10mm or so is pretty irrelevant really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utemad View Post
    The alloy wheel on my Disco1 is held on by nuts that have no backs to them. They are alloy nuts but you can see the stud when you look down the hole.
    There are no spacers of any kind behind my wheel.



    As you can see there are two different types of nuts.
    There are two of these black ones.


    Plus a silver one. This looks like it has been drilled out as the edge of the hole has a twisted up bit.

    As you can see the silver one is longer in the body.
    Those black ones look like the original steel wheel nuts I am talking about with no back on them so you can screw them in as far as needed.

    That's what I am using now, but the only trouble is that they don't have the long wide shaft of the 'alloy wheel' nuts and are just short tampered nuts to fit the steel rims. I feel they may be slightly digging into the alloy wheel and not supporting it fully.

    Your drilled out nut has given me another idea. I could just drill out the middle section of my 'alloy wheel' nuts so that I can put them on as far needed, then I wouldn't need a spacer behind it. That might be the go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nice1guv View Post
    Those black ones look like the original steel wheel nuts I am talking about with no back on them so you can screw them in as far as needed.
    I've got a set of the steel wheel nuts as well so I know they aren't the same.
    The black ones do have the alloy wheel shaft thing with the steel wheel taper on the end of it. As I also use these nuts to hold my steel wheel on when I have the play tyres on.
    If you look closely in the photo you can see a round washer type thing under the nut. That is a part of the nut.

    These nuts and alloy wheels were on the car when I bought it so I can't tell you where the bits came from.

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