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Thread: Disco 300TDi dyno'd and ? overfuelling

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    Would you be able to scan the Dyno read out or post it up as this sounds like a GREAT mod that we all shouild do to get 20 extra KW?

    How much was the new IC and did you change all the pipe work etc to silicon as well?
    I'm figuring the IC fitted would normally be in the $600 range, but you'd need to confirm that with TRS... I couldn't quite swing the new silicon hoses as part of the deal when buying the vehicle, but after all I've read on this forum will be getting some sooner rather than later.

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    McRover, here's the dyno readout as discussed.

    BTW I rang Blackwood Dyno - they don't use a pyrometer. They're also very happy to dyno it again if there's a perceived problem with it. That's what I'm trying to determine hey!


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    Quote Originally Posted by omvanders View Post
    McRover, here's the dyno readout as discussed.

    BTW I rang Blackwood Dyno - they don't use a pyrometer. They're also very happy to dyno it again if there's a perceived problem with it. That's what I'm trying to determine hey!

    Hey thats a huge improovement, was that just the intercooler or was that tweaked as well?

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    McRover when you say "was that tweaked as well?", in my ignorance I don't know what you're referring to.

    The IC was fitted when I took delivery. With the new IC but nothing else altered by TRS as far as I know, the dyno shows 50kW. After the 'tweaking' of the dyno-tune it improved to 70kW. Needless to say I have to sink the boot in a lot less to get her moving, and for all intents and purposes the dyno seems to have done the motor a huge favour, providing of course I'm not closer to the brink of trouble when it comes to egt issues?

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    So they tuned (tweaked) the injector pump then?

    Thats what im asking, Im pretty sure from what you have written that they have.

    If the intercooler was already fitted when they did the initial run, then this says to me that the intercooler probably had little to do with the increased power and it was the tuning of the pump that did the major power increase.

    Im just trying to find out if it would be really worth fitting a bigger/better intercooler or just tweaking it.

    Thanks for that though, it does show that the tuning of the pump gives huge results.

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    Yes from what I've read elsewhere the fitting of an intercooler alone only gives a minimal benefit, but when combined with the tweaking of the injector pump the real benefits are realised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omvanders View Post
    McRover, here's the dyno readout as discussed.

    BTW I rang Blackwood Dyno - they don't use a pyrometer. They're also very happy to dyno it again if there's a perceived problem with it. That's what I'm trying to determine hey!

    Your kidding me, right???

    Don't let anyone lay a finger on it without fitting a pyrometer first

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    Don't let anyone lay a finger on it without fitting a pyrometer first
    A lesson learnt JC. So, where to from here?

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    A bigger I/C allows for you to get more air into the cylinders and therefore more fuel for more power.

    With the standard I/C you will get a bit more power if the pump is currently underfueling.

    To put it another way, if you take your standard I/C and wind up the pump you will get more power, over do it and you will get a lot of black smoke and high egts. With the pump in that wound up state now put a bigger I/C in and you will drop the egts and reduce the smoke. You may also have to tweak the waste gate to produce a bit more pressure as the I/C can now cope and remove the additional heat from the air that makes up the charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slug_burner View Post
    A bigger I/C allows for you to get more air into the cylinders and therefore more fuel for more power.

    With the standard I/C you will get a bit more power if the pump is currently underfueling.

    To put it another way, if you take your standard I/C and wind up the pump you will get more power, over do it and you will get a lot of black smoke and high egts. With the pump in that wound up state now put a bigger I/C in and you will drop the egts and reduce the smoke. You may also have to tweak the waste gate to produce a bit more pressure as the I/C can now cope and remove the additional heat from the air that makes up the charge.
    This is great intheory but has been argued to death on here before.

    Im not convinced that an IC will make a huge effect on EGT's, it is more just a matter of balance between what air you can get in and what fuel you can feed the engine before it gets to the too much level.

    The IC is there to increase the capacity for the turbo to be able to boost, making the turbo more efficient more than anything else.

    Again, this has been argued before and I may have it **** about but thats how I can see it in my mind and I havnt had anyone come up with a strong enough arguement to change my mind so far.

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