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    paddle buttons steering wheel??

    Hi Guys. Had a good look and can't find anything relating to this problem. The paddle buttons on my steering wheel do not work. 2003 v8. Nothing working. The cruise control button on the dash illuminates when pressed but the paddles do nothing. Any ideas where to start looking??

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    It could be an open circuit in the spiral cassette (under the steering wheel) or it could simply be a vacuum hose that's leaking.

    Check the cruise control hoses under the bonnet & also the one at the brake switch.
    Scott

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    Check hoses under bonnet, I had same fault and it turned out to be a split hose where it connects onto cruise control bellows in engine bay. Went to supercheap auto and got a metre of hose for only a couple of dollars and all fixed.
    Cheers Matt

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    Hi Chuck B
    this may sound like a dumb question . But are you pushing the buttons from the front ! OR from behind the wheel , 'cause that's how they work, from behind so you need to push them toward you. hope this helps


    Tony
    03 V8 D2a

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    At any rate, you will want to check all vacuum possibilities before you continue with this guide. The vacuum from the pump under the jack at the front of the engine compartment on the driver's side, to the T junction just before the firewall, from the T junction to the actuator bulb, and from the T junction through the firewall to the
    brake cut-off switch.

    One other disclaimer here: My disco is a 98, I know for sure that the 96's are different, but am not sure when the change took place. Okay, you will need access to the Cruise Control ECU connector which is located
    behind the glove box. Remove the glove box and you will see this (cruise pic):

    Now, with a few tools for testing electrical circuits and some patience lets begin:

    1. Turn ignition on. Turn CC system on. Put transfer case in HI range and gearshift in forward gear. (from this point forward I will say "in drive" to mean the previous sentence). Ensure clutch pedal is released. Disconnect cruise control ECU connector. Connect negative lead of voltmeter to CC ECU harness connector terminal no. 8 (black wire) and positive lead to terminal no. 10 (orange/white wire). If battery voltage exists, go to step 3. If battery voltage does not exist, go to next step.

    2. Turn ignition off. Using ohmmeter, check resistance between ECU harness connector term. no. 8 (black wire) and ground. If resistance is less than one ohm, go to next step. if resistance is not less that one ohm, repair black wire between CC ECU and ground.

    3. Ensure ignition and CC system are on. Disconnect CC ECU connector. Using voltmeter, check voltage between CC ECU harness connector term. no. 4 (red/yellow wire) and ground. With RESUME/DECEL switch pressed, battery voltage should exist. With RESUME/DECEL switch released, no voltage should exist. If voltage is as specified, go to next step. If voltage is not as specified check circuit from steering wheel switch to CC ECU.

    4. Ensure ignition and CC system are on. Ensure CC ECU connector is disconnected. Using voltmeter, check voltage between CC ECU harness term. no. 3 (gray/yellow wire) and ground. With SET/ACCEL switch pressed, batter voltage should exist. With SET/ACCEL switch released, no voltage should exist. If voltage is as specified, go to next step. If voltage is not as specified, check circuit from steering wheel switch to
    CC ECU.

    5. Ensure ignition is on. Ensure CC ECU connector is disconnected. Using voltmeter, check voltage between CC ECU harness term no. 5 (green/purple wire) and ground. With brake pedal pressed, battery voltage should exist. With brake pedal released, no voltage should exist. If voltage is as specified, go to next step. If voltage is not as specified, check green/purple wire between CC ECU and stoplight switch. Check stoplight switch. Repair as necessary.

    6. Turn ignition on. Reconnect CC ECU connector. Using voltmeter, back-probe between CC ECU harness term no. 11 (yellow wire) and ground. Spin a rear tire at about 3 MPH. Voltage should be about 2.5 volts, or vary between zero and 5 volts. If voltage is as specified, go to next step. If voltage is not as specified, check yellow
    wire from CC ECU to the vehicle speed sensor. Check ECU. Repair as necessary.

    7. Turn ignition on. Turn CC system on. Disconnect CC ECU harness connector. Connect a fused jumper wire between CC ECU harness term No. 1 (Orange/blue wire) and battery voltage. Connect another fused jumper wire between CC ECU harness term no. 7 (orange/red wire) and ground. If vacuum pump operates, go to
    next step. If vacuum pump does not operate, check orange/blue and orange/red wires between CC ECU and vacuum pump. Check Vacuum pump. Repair as necessary.

    8. Ensure ignition and CC system are on. Ensure CC ECU connector is disconnected. Connect a fuse jumper wire between CC ECU harness term. no. 1 (orange/blue wire) and battery voltage. Connect another fused jumper wire between CC ECU harness term. no. 7 (orange/red wire) and ground. Connect another fused jumper wire between CC ECU harness term. no. 6 (orange/pink wire) and ground. Vacuum pump should operate, valve should close and throttle should open wide. If system operates as specified, repair CC ECU. If system does not operate as specified, check orange/pink wire between CC ECU and vacuum pump. Check vacuum pump. Repair as necessary.

    I hope this helps someone. It's a fairly easy way to diagnose any electrical or component problem with this cruise control system. Read: Do steps 7 and 8 to check your vacuum pump.

    Jason.

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