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    TD5 Propshaft Maintenance Questions

    Hi

    2 simple questions
    What grease should I use to lubricate the PropShafts
    Where can I buy the rubber "boots" on the Propshaft, as mine look a bit worn and can imagine will clog up soon with mud etc?

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    Tom Wood's Custom Drive Shafts - Drive Shaft Maintenance - Grease
    Grease
    We are often asked about the frequency or type of grease to use when servicing a drive shaft. The answer has always been; "we believe a frequent and thorough greasing is more important than the type of grease you use". This is primarily because, one of the main results of a proper is a "flushing out" of any contaminates. It seems that a little grease and dirt make an excellent grinding compound. While greasing, if you pump in grease until you see clean grease come out past ALL the seals, you will insure that most of the contaminants will be washed away.

    We've taken a look at the lubrication recommendations from some Spicer universal joints (greasable and non-greasable) on my shelf and they read as follows:

    • "Spicer Re-Lube Light/Medium Duty..."
    • "Lithium base greases meeting NLGI Grade 1 or Grade 2 are preferred..."
    • "Spicer Pre-Lube Light/Medium Duty..."
    • "Do not add lubrication Do not mix bearing caps on journals..."
    • "Miss-matching of cups on cross will result in improper quantities of lubrication in cups causing premature joint failure..."
    • "Addition of lubricant may damage bearing cup seals leading to premature joint failure..."
    The NGLI is the National Grease Lubricating Institute (it's probably a pretty boring place). It is the umbrella organization that sets the standards for the properties of different greases, oils and other lubricants. Again, although we are not authorities on the subject, we do know that the grade will typically refer to the viscosity of the lubrication, with a grade 1 being less viscous than a grade 2. The lithium is the base to which the lubrication is added. In this case, lithium is basically a soap base. There are other bases to which the lubrication can be added, Molybdenum Disulfide for example, which is typically referred to as; a "moly" grease.

    Beyond that there are a few general parameters that we would suggest in selecting the grease. Temperature rating should be at least 300 degrees. This may sound awfully high but it wouldn't be uncommon for the drive shaft to reach an operating temperature of near 250 degrees and it's important that the lubrication doesn't separate from the base and boil off.

    There is also a load rating to consider. Theoretically at least, if you can prevent metal to metal contact, you will prevent wear. Greases and oils will have what is known as a "Timken Load Rating". We are not qualified to explain all the technical information of a Timken Load Rating, it is basically the rating of the lubricant to withstand certain amounts of pressure before smearing so thin as to allow surface to surface contact. The Timken Load Rating should be sufficient for the intended use. Most grease will probably be adequate with the exception of thin motor assembly grease.

    The viscosity should be in the range that will allow for a good flow past all the wearing components while servicing. Again, this is for the "flushing out" of the contaminates while servicing. Very high viscosity in the grease may actually be detrimental as higher viscosity grease tends to create more heat than would a more freely flowing grease. Remember to that ultimately, heat is one of the real enemies here.

    If you run in a lot of water or mud, it may also be good to use a grease that has water resistant characteristics.

    Also check this:
    Tom Wood's Custom Drive Shafts - Drive Shaft Maintenance

    If you are lucky enough to have grease fittings in your U joint, use them! You should always grease until you see clean grease coming out of all four of the seals on the Universal joint. It is an urban myth that this purging will damage the seal. They are designed to purge. I recommend that you do this every time you change your oil and when you get back from that wet, muddy four- wheeling adventure. You'll be flushing the water and grit out of the bearings.
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    I advise one shot of grease per nipple every 1000Ks and at the end of every day when youve done a fording. You'll find that doing this keeps the cups full the crud out and when you inject the grease you dont have to do 20-30 pumps before they all purge clean grease.

    if you get a seal that wont purge strike the propshaft near the yoke with a rubber mallet depending on which seal it is depends on which side you strike hit the same side if the seal is on the flange side (the bit that bolts onto the tcase or the diff) and the opposite side if its on the yoke side (the bit thats welded to the prop shaft. This closes up the tolerance on the side thats purging and opens them up on the side thats not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post

    if you get a seal that wont purge strike the propshaft near the yoke with a rubber mallet depending on which seal it is depends on which side you strike hit the same side if the seal is on the flange side (the bit that bolts onto the tcase or the diff) and the opposite side if its on the yoke side (the bit thats welded to the prop shaft. This closes up the tolerance on the side thats purging and opens them up on the side thats not.
    Like this "tip"

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