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    Got my oil test results

    I have got the results of my engine oil sample that I sent away last week. The oil has been in the TD5 (04) for only 1500-2000km. It is Castrol Edge 5W30. I had the injector seals/washers replaced on the 30/8/10 with this oil in the sump. The fuel dilution came back at 4.4% (slightly elevated, viscosity and dispersancy may be affected.) Damn. Does this percentage sound like leaking injectors (that may have been fixed?) or a cracked head? It has never been overheated. Silicon levels are elevated also.
    I'm thinking of changing the oil and filters again, running it for 1000-1500km and re testing the oil. Any thoughts?? Am I up for a new head?
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    Cant help you with the oil report.
    But what does the oil testing cost?

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    doh

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    The joys of oil sampling...Is this your first oil sample or have you got a few to compare..
    You say you got the injector seals/washers replaced, was this because you had fuel dilution previously?

    I wont bore you with some of the weird samples we return..fuel dilution is 1 that comes and goes quite often
    Change the oil and filter and resample after same km's would be my suggestion, or run it another 1000kms and see if it has increased, bad fuel dilution will be noticable by raised oil level on dip stick.

    Hope you dont have to many sleepless nights till your next sample..

    Cheers Ean

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    Yep - X2
    Dump oil & filters and replace with new. Monitor oil level for an additional 1000K+ before sending for a test. As Ean points out - no 2 engine oil tests are the same and as a former fleet manager, I've seen some weird and wonderful results
    If only minimal change downwards, save your money and don't test (Obviously)
    Any further increase of over 5% (450ML) is worthy of deeper investigation as that is approaching 1/2 a litre of total volume.

    Don't know your driving conditions...Stop start city grand prix?? - short commute with engine not reaching operating temp?? or long distance country driving but in my opinion (And not wanting to open a pandora's box of oil preference) - 5W30 Edge may be a bit light even though it is a quality oil.

    Good luck!

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    Looks like Td5's have a habit of this (fuel dilution) and apparently the later spec ones with the higher injection pressures are more prone (doh !)

    IMO 4.4% is miles too high, in an ideal world you want under 0.5% but no lab in Oz that I'm aware of lists anything under 1%.

    I'd use a 15W40 CI-4/CI-4+ or CJ-4 HDEO just for short term testing.
    It's much cheaper than Edge or M1, and the xW-40 will tolerate the dilution a little better due to the better viscosity retention and better additive package than the 5W-30 while you try and get on top of it.

    As Catmatt said, driving conditions contribute strongly to this too. Stop/start/short trips don't allow an engine to really get components and oil to operating temps and volatilise off any moisture and fuel that can get past the rings.

    The blotter test as discussed on another thread can help keep on top of this too.

    BTW, which lab are you using ?

    <edit> as the other fella's said, dump it and re-test, but I'd give at least 3000km, maybe more. Fuel dilution from a one off test is an obvious issue, but anything else needs trending over multiple tests.

    Silicon can be part of the oils additive package, it's used as an anti-foam, to know whether it's dust ingress (silicon oxide) you need to read it with some other contaminants and I don't find the labs very good at interpreting results either.
    Having said that TD5's are known for poor sealing of the air filter and air box on occasion, so it's worth checking the panel on how well it's sealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RR P38 View Post
    Cant help you with the oil report.
    But what does the oil testing cost?
    OilCheck pty ltd. All up $43.21.
    Regards
    Robbo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ean Austral View Post
    The joys of oil sampling...Is this your first oil sample or have you got a few to compare..
    You say you got the injector seals/washers replaced, was this because you had fuel dilution previously?

    I wont bore you with some of the weird samples we return..fuel dilution is 1 that comes and goes quite often
    Change the oil and filter and resample after same km's would be my suggestion, or run it another 1000kms and see if it has increased, bad fuel dilution will be noticable by raised oil level on dip stick.

    Hope you dont have to many sleepless nights till your next sample..

    Cheers Ean
    Thanks for the quick reply Ean. Yes it was my first oil sample. I have suspected fuel dilution, or I have just put in more oil than was necessary which I have been guilty of in the past. The level has not changed on the dipstick at all. I hope they spilled a bit of fuel when they did the injectors. So I will do a change and get the oil re tested after 1000k's or so.
    Regards
    Robbo

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    Lets hope that was the case...Oil sampling is good, but its hard to determine alot from 1 sample..I have seen alot of sleep lost because of bad samples only to find the next ones are fine..(mainly my sleep)


    Cheers Ean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catmatt View Post
    Yep - X2
    Dump oil & filters and replace with new. Monitor oil level for an additional 1000K+ before sending for a test. As Ean points out - no 2 engine oil tests are the same and as a former fleet manager, I've seen some weird and wonderful results
    If only minimal change downwards, save your money and don't test (Obviously)
    Any further increase of over 5% (450ML) is worthy of deeper investigation as that is approaching 1/2 a litre of total volume.

    Don't know your driving conditions...Stop start city grand prix?? - short commute with engine not reaching operating temp?? or long distance country driving but in my opinion (And not wanting to open a pandora's box of oil preference) - 5W30 Edge may be a bit light even though it is a quality oil.

    Good luck!
    Thanks for that. I will do a oil/filterX2 change and get it re tested in 1000k's or so, hopefully the fuel dilution is left over from the injector job. My driving conditions? Well, I have a company ute so the Disco is purely a leisure machine, I never take it on short trips and when I have to, I always take the "long way home". Trips away up the coast and some suburban trips but it always reaches operating temp on the TM2 (75 85 deg C). I have been thinking the 5W30 is a bit light too, with summer coming on what do you think of Valvoline Synpower 5W40?
    Regards
    Robbo

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