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    Hey Was,,
    if I was cynical enough---
    that fault you found could be the Option B fault,,

    BIGO,, yes it is a "Faith" thing,,
    and you only get the Faith by listening/reading and by figuring out who knows there stuff and who doesnt.
    I have ZERO mechanical certificates, but I read.
    I read everything.

    and like Andrew says,, after two years and ZERO failures, I'm happy Option B works.
    We can test wheel sensors first (physically too,, no nanocom needed) if you'd rather rule that out first,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpick View Post
    sorry for my ignorance and I have tried very hard to find the answer by searching but no joy


    what exactly is "option b" please


    thanks in advance
    If im honest I find the search function in most forums a pain in the rear end, but a simple look back through this topic and in particular my post (no 11) will give you a link.

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    I've been away over Christmas and new year just before Christmas day. But I plucked up the courage and did the option B. Didn't realise there must be a kit somewhere for 15 dollars including a plug??,,, or so it seems.

    I Wired it using normal conectors after soldering all the conections and exposed wire before crimping and it all looks pretty smick and I'm happy its secure and wont give any problems. I used an ABS AMIGO to clear the codes and check for faults after the job and I'm happy to say no logged or current "Shuttle valve electric failure" faults showing on the PC when reading the AMIGO device. The wife and I have been solely using her car for the last week and no more 3 amigos either. Happy as hell. Cost me more that 15 bucks but that because I bought a new digital multimeter and new soldering iron. But plenty less that $1350

    I have a spare SVS that I can wire up for option B if my car a D2 as well has the same fault, but it dosen't at the moment so I'm leaving it alone until it does.

    Thanks for the replies and info, as I have said earlier on these posts, thats the reason I joined the forum and it well and trully paid off. cheers.

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    well done

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    Talking 3 amigos

    Big O--did anyone reply to the queary about the legalities of option B, I had the same thought, as have had dealings with insurance NOBS before

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    can't see how bypassing a faulty circuit could cause issues with insurance, unless the bypass caused the failure and the accident i suppose.

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    FINALLY, someone mentions legalities at post 35.

    I will not be performing this mod to ANY customers vehicles, however I do mention this link to them and if they want to do it themselves, I'm happy to let them, I'll even bleed the brakes etc for them after.

    I am NOT prepared to get caught up in a legal battle with an insurance company or more importantly worry myself to death wondering if the vehicle that was just involved in an accident had an ABS failure (Unlikely I must say), that could cause serious injury or death to the occupants of the vehicle. If the insurere saw I had dismantled the ABS modulator and modified it, I would be sued to within an inch of my life and who knows what else in the civil courts.

    I have no doubt the fix is worthwhile, but to me, as a repairer, it just isn't worth the risk to me. At least the individual can decide for themselves if they want to do it.

    It is a pity the legalities get in the way of a damn clever and simple fix for such an endemic problem.

    JC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosscoe68 View Post
    can't see how bypassing a faulty circuit could cause issues with insurance, unless the bypass caused the failure and the accident i suppose.
    Unfortunately, just touching it, even if it IS working afterwards, will cause a problem.

    JC

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    Agree it would be a legal nightmare just touching it. Work related friend has lost house, business everything when he bought a hyd hose made by someone else and supplied it only (was fitted by end user). It wasn't crimped correctly so both him & the mfct went through the cleaners as someone died as a result. If he'd told them where to go and buy it he'd be clear.

    While it's a bypass of a faulty circuit it's just bypassing effectively a broken wire so it doesn't really change the operation of the circuit to tell anything anything it doesn't already get told.

    Wonder what the legalities of option A (cut open and resolder) would be given the level of work needed just to find the work by comparison.

    For option A (when I need it) I'll be finding some OEM plugs to put in so it looks even more std.

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    Well ANY touching of an ABS unit, unless you are a qualified company to work on these, will result in trouble. I agree it is frustrating but if it only saves 1 life through this scenrio then it is all OK in my book.

    Having said all this, the option B is by far the best way to fix this frustrating and potentially expensive problem.

    JC

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