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    D2 Brake master cylinder repair kits

    I picked up my first D2 (2000 TD5 Auto) a couple of days ago and today discovered the brake fluid level connector unplugged to disguise low fluid level resulting from a leaking fluid reservoir.

    Plan "A" is to get the dealer to rectify this as a RWC issue. I'm not particularly confident this will get results so I'm looking for a Plan "B".

    I've come across a part# SJJ100362 which is an overhaul kit which replaces the reservoir and seals and should fix my issue. These seem to go for around $85 which is a lot more manageable than $500 for a new master cylinder unit (a.k.a Plan "Z").

    I'm curious if anyone had any experiences with this kit?

    cheers
    Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by OffTrack View Post
    I picked up my first D2 (2000 TD5 Auto) a couple of days ago and today discovered the brake fluid level connector unplugged to disguise low fluid level resulting from a leaking fluid reservoir.

    Plan "A" is to get the dealer to rectify this as a RWC issue. I'm not particularly confident this will get results so I'm looking for a Plan "B".

    I've come across a part# SJJ100362 which is an overhaul kit which replaces the reservoir and seals and should fix my issue. These seem to go for around $85 which is a lot more manageable than $500 for a new master cylinder unit (a.k.a Plan "Z").

    I'm curious if anyone had any experiences with this kit?

    cheers
    Paul
    Paul, the plastic rear section will break off on the old one so I'm glad to see there is a new one in the kit. That is cheap too, last one I saw was over $110+ freight.

    JC

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    I got a complete new master cylinder for about $220. It was a TWR brand. It has lucas stamped on the side just like the factory one. You will miss out on the Landrover stamp on the top of the plastic res. $380 for a stamp on the top. I got mine from MJK Discovery. worth shopping around. stay away from BritPart brake bits IMHO.

    Cheers

    Matt

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    I'm pretty sure that kit is Britparts or similar so perhaps not the best option. Not sure I'd trust my life to my brake overhaul skills - I reckon the last one I did was on a mini 20 years ago.

    I've taken a look at the TRW cylinders and they seem like they might be a good option.
    Thanks for the leads Matt.

    cheers
    Paul

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    I've just had to put a new one in our 03 (I changed the slave aswell just to be sure)

    Paddocks got me AP (original Equipment ones) for 79pounds and 22pounds respectively

    (There are 4 different master cylinders for your info - early and late td5 and early and late v8)

    Took 5 days to get here once they had found me an AP one (I told them I didn't want anything from Britpart/allmakes)

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    AP ceased to exist as a mass market brake component manufacturer in 2000 so it's going to be difficult to find AP master cylinders.

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    The TRW part numbers for the TD5 RHD master cylinders are:

    PNM220 - from chassis #3A000000
    PMN221 - From chassis #.: XA232917 To Chassis #: 2A999999

    According to the website of a local distributor Lucas products are being progressive rebadged as TRW.

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    Indeed, I used to work only about 5 minutes from the AP factory.

    Both the cylinders I took of our 2003 Disco have AP logos cast into them, as do the new ones that turned up earlier this week.

    They are identical.

    Maybe Delphi are making them with the same tooling now?

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    I asked Graeme Ulrich @ British Car Components in Nth Melbourne about master cylinders and he told me that in a lot of cases people are buying a whole master cylinder assembly when the problem is the leaking o-rings. His advice was that if your brakes are ok, and the fault is a leak is from between the reservoir and cylinder body the SJJ100362 kit at under $100 is the best option.

    Apparently the kit contains parts required to replace the reservoir and o-rings, and isn't an overhaul kit for the cylinder itself. Maybe JustinC can weigh in as to whether the reservoir replacement can be done without removing the cylinder from the car?

    cheers
    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffTrack View Post
    I asked Graeme Ulrich @ British Car Components in Nth Melbourne about master cylinders and he told me that in a lot of cases people are buying a whole master cylinder assembly when the problem is the leaking o-rings. His advice was that if your brakes are ok, and the fault is a leak is from between the reservoir and cylinder body the SJJ100362 kit at under $100 is the best option.

    Apparently the kit contains parts required to replace the reservoir and o-rings, and isn't an overhaul kit for the cylinder itself. Maybe JustinC can weigh in as to whether the reservoir replacement can be done without removing the cylinder from the car?

    cheers
    Paul
    Paul, it can't, as there is a rolled pin through to the flange area that needs to come out, and the aforementioned plastic rear section has to come off and is very likely to break. I'd just get a new TRW one if I were you.

    JC

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    Thanks Justin. Fortunately the dealer I purchased the car from has been pretty helpful and the D2 is booked in on Tuesday to have the master cylinder leak looked at.

    cheers
    Paul

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