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    Question Turbo Boost

    Did a couple of test runs yesterday to check what boost pressure I am getting from my 01 TD5. Took readings from stand still to 110km/hr with foot flat to floor on level ground
    Nanocom (connected to notebook) shows ambient pressure at 82.12 and max pressure at inlet manifold of 202.8 ... levels off here and won't go higher, possibly because I have a TD5_Alive wastegate controller installed.
    I assume that the Nanocoms readings are in Bar and if so, then this converts to 12.068psi and 29.697 respectively.
    The difference between ambient and inlet is 17.629psi and from what I understand there is about a 2psi loss of pressure through the hoses and intercooler, therefore this would meen a boost pressure at the turbo of around 19.629psi.
    Is this about as high as I can safely go with wastegate adjustment or should I try for a little more

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    If you have a boostbox, the Nanocom readings aren't correct as they're being modified by the unit.
    The only way you will see actual figures is from a gauge with an independent sensor at the manifold.

    Andrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapserv View Post
    Nanocom (connected to notebook) shows ambient pressure at 82.12 and max pressure at inlet manifold of 202.8 ... levels off here and won't go higher, possibly because I have a TD5_Alive wastegate controller installed.
    I assume that the Nanocoms readings are in Bar and if so, then this converts to 12.068psi and 29.697 respectively.
    For the pedants (like me) 1 Bar = 100 kPa (= 1 hectopascal) which is approx 1 atm. So if the psi ranges you refer to are about right, then I assume its reading in kPa. If it is reading in kPa, then 82.12 kPa is 11.91psi.

    Mundy

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    Boost Pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE View Post
    If you have a boostbox, the Nanocom readings aren't correct as they're being modified by the unit.
    The only way you will see actual figures is from a gauge with an independent sensor at the manifold.

    Andrew
    Thanks for that Andrew,
    Looks like I might have to install a pressure guage in the inlet manifold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mundy View Post
    For the pedants (like me) 1 Bar = 100 kPa (= 1 hectopascal) which is approx 1 atm. So if the psi ranges you refer to are about right, then I assume its reading in kPa. If it is reading in kPa, then 82.12 kPa is 11.91psi.

    Mundy
    Thanks Mundy,
    I think your right ... I did make a note somewhere some time back about the units used in the nanacom and now that you mention it it was kPa, not that it makes a great deal of difference in the scheme of things here. but it looks like I am pretty close to where the boost should be. ... Dave

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    If it's an early Nanocom1, it displays absolute pressure, not manifold pressure so you need to subtract the ambient pressure. But 200kpa is a bit low. Absolute should be up around the 230kpa somewhere or about 16-18 psi if it's not been fiddled with.
    Even with a boost box, it should still stop at about 18psi.
    I would be looking at the wastegate modulator if it's a D2 as it's probably stuck in a mid position and possibly check intercooler hoses for delamination as it's way too low.

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    I'm running 21psi at the inlet where the Egr used to be. With boost box.
    Regards
    Robbo

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE View Post
    If it's an early Nanocom1, it displays absolute pressure, not manifold pressure so you need to subtract the ambient pressure. But 200kpa is a bit low. Absolute should be up around the 230kpa somewhere or about 16-18 psi if it's not been fiddled with.
    Even with a boost box, it should still stop at about 18psi.
    I would be looking at the wastegate modulator if it's a D2 as it's probably stuck in a mid position and possibly check intercooler hoses for delamination as it's way too low.
    Thanks LOVEMYRANGIE,
    I have a Nanocom1 that I connect through my pc (sitting on the dash)
    Wastegate modulator was replaced 12 months back, not because the old one was necessarily faulty, but because I wanted to rule it out as a cause of possible issues (not to say that the new one is not faulty... but unlikely) and I have upgraded the ECU (Tombie), the intercooler (thanks Graeme) and replaced all hoses in intercooler circuit with high quality silicon hoses (ex TD5 Alive - UK) as well as installing the boost box (TD5 Alive) ...... Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbotd5 View Post
    I'm running 21psi at the inlet where the Egr used to be. With boost box.
    Regards
    Robbo
    Thanks Robbo,
    Sounds like you have the boost that I need to achieve but I'm a bit reluctant to do any more tweaking until I can get a boost guage installed in the inlet manifold area. From what I read it is possible to cause some serious damage if I push it too far. .... Dave

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    But did you reset the gate pressure? Just swapping it over won't guarantee you the same setting. The rod needs to be readjusted to ensure the correct opening pressure.
    Depending on who the manufacturer of the actuator is will depend on the spring tension.
    The rod adjusts the preload and therefore the operating pressure that overrides the spring.

    17psi on a chipped ECU will blow smoke, be under powered and run overly high EGT temps through lack of air. That's what will kill the engine.

    Get a boost gauge and see what it runs. The idea behind the boostbox is that you can run higher pressures. It won't kill it however as it will control EGT's by doing so.
    I run 20psi without a boostbox, have a stage 2 TD5 Alive remap and have yet to puff anything out the back. My only issue is that I constantly get overboost problems if im not careful when i stand on it but I'm not going to wind it back as I can easily hit 700C as it is. Drop it back and it will get hotter again.
    On the stock map at this pressure it was almost impossible to get an overboost, now I'm driving on my EGT and boost gauge...

    Andrew

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