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    I'm "chip" confused ???

    Please let me begin by apologising for yet another "chip" post!

    So I'm a total gumby when it come to this chipping thing ... but I do know that I want to get it done after the holiday season. The question is how and without the misses catching on

    Disco is a 2000 Td5 manual ... so the non-flashable type. Secondly ... I live in Sydney, so there are location complications with the TRS and Tombie versions ... right?

    If I go down the TRS path it's $600 plus a refundable $400 when they get my old ECU back (just to get that info was like pulling teeth!) but I can't just plug it in and off I go ... it's got to be tuned to the car ... is this correct? Who can do that in Sydney?

    Is that the same process for Tombie's? In the meantime I'll PM him.

    TRS tell me that Graeme Cooper here in Sydney uses their chips ... so that could be an option too ... anyone done this? $$$?

    I also believe the Bruce Davis chip is a little more expensive but when I spoke with them ... they were having some issues with chipping the early manual ECU's ... something about the soldering process.

    Any info greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

    Craig

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    I have the Bruce Davis rechip but my TD5 is in a D2a, so was easier.

    From preformance point of view, it works really great.

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    I have a 2000 model D2 with a Davis Chip - it's ok but all of the power comes in high. So put the foot down ...... nothing..... nothing.... then VAROOOM!! . Makes roundabouts interesting sometimes. Just something to be aware of too. I have removed my middle muffler though and it has allowed the turbo to spool up quicker so the power comes on a little sooner now.

    When I was replacing my injector harness recently I got the ECU out to check for oil ingress and it look like it had been opened by a drunk gorilla with his nails. It was bent to buggery. They must have been in a rush. Subsequently, Ive siliconed the be-jeesus out of it so that I dont have water ingress (which happened when not on the road but at the car wash and the car continued to crank over for 3 minutes until I disconected the battery! Not fun. Really not fun)

    So all in all chip is ok but I believe there are more superior alternatives. Plenty of info on the forum and in the "good oil".

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    Quote Originally Posted by gusthedog View Post
    I have a 2000 model D2 with a Davis Chip - it's ok but all of the power comes in high. So put the foot down ...... nothing..... nothing.... then VAROOOM!! .
    This is certainly true, but it was always the case before the rechipping. However, post rechip the low down grunt is much improved, not great, but much improved. This isn't really an issue for the autos but more so for my manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mundy View Post
    This is certainly true, but it was always the case before the rechipping. However, post rechip the low down grunt is much improved, not great, but much improved. This isn't really an issue for the autos but more so for my manual.
    Mundy mine is an auto and I still find it a problem. Particularly on soft ground - like thick cooch (don't ask and don't tell the owner of my girlfriends old rental in bathurst why there is an ARB bull bar shaped dent in the fence in the back yard!)

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    Hello Disco EMU,

    DTUK do a chip out of the UK. It is exactly the same as the DP power chip but half the price(made in exactly the same factory). Takes about 15 minutes to fit roughly, 25 minutes to do it neatly. When i ordered mine, it was on my doorstep in about 7 days or so. Excellent backup over the phone if there are any issues. It has adjustable power simply by shifting a pin on the electronic module. It took me about four adjustments until I was happy that it suited my driving style. There is not a lot of sooty smoke unless you give it a good boot of from the traffic lights, even then the cloud is left at the traffic lights and stops once the motor starts to spin. The Disco went from sluggish when I first got it to driving more like a regular car when the chip was put in. The exhaust manifold has warped once, hopefully not again since being destressed. DTUK usually have specials on ebay or their home website. Ring them, they are all too happy to help.

    Cheers,

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason789 View Post
    Hello Disco EMU,

    DTUK do a chip out of the UK. It is exactly the same as the DP power chip but half the price(made in exactly the same factory). Takes about 15 minutes to fit roughly, 25 minutes to do it neatly. When i ordered mine, it was on my doorstep in about 7 days or so. Excellent backup over the phone if there are any issues. It has adjustable power simply by shifting a pin on the electronic module. It took me about four adjustments until I was happy that it suited my driving style. There is not a lot of sooty smoke unless you give it a good boot of from the traffic lights, even then the cloud is left at the traffic lights and stops once the motor starts to spin. The Disco went from sluggish when I first got it to driving more like a regular car when the chip was put in. The exhaust manifold has warped once, hopefully not again since being destressed. DTUK usually have specials on ebay or their home website. Ring them, they are all too happy to help.

    Cheers,

    Jason
    Hi Jason and thanks for the post. At the special discount ending tonight of 339 english pounds, sounds like a good deal.

    Did you also end up with improved fuel economy (or just enjoyed the extra performance?). To quote Pricey, I usually drivemy D2a 04 like a nanna, but also do some fairly heavy towing, plus live in a part of town which is a bit hilly - not all of WA is flat sand plain.

    For general interest and some comments/questions, at the upper end of the scale, Franzone in Perth have a system for $880 installed (don't know any details yet) and Davis quotes about $600, I haven't yet contacted Tombie, plus there are others.

    I have not yet worked out in my own mind which ones remap and what if any are the real/day to day benefits of remapping vs.masking.

    I'm also concerned/unclear on the impacts (if any) on my newly aquired nanocom.

    All comments/suggestions welcomed!

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    I'd put myself in the 'gumpy' category too, but am currently on the same journey as you and have been reading as much as I can about this between getting organised for the big day ahead.

    I'm not sure that 'tuned to your car' would be the right way to describe what I understand needs to happen.

    My understanding is that the ECU needs to be told what your injector codes are. Tis requires a nanocom or equivalent system used by a landrover specialist. These can be obtained by 'reading' the old ECU before it is removed from your vehicle (using a Nanocom for example) or physically looking at the injectors (requires taking the rocker cover off so not ideal).

    The other thing that needs to happen was referred to as 'security learn' by Tombie in his message to me. I'm not exactly sure what this means, but I think it is matching the ECU to the Engine Vin no or something like that. I assume this can also be done with a nonocom or professional equivalent.

    So bottom line is you need to find a landrover specialist in your area who can do these things for you, and it will probably involve 2 trips to them, one to read the injector codes from the old ECU and record them, and 1 to put the injector codes onto the new ECU and do the security learn.

    I'm more than happy to be corrected here, as I don't really understand this stuff, so would be good if someone could set me straight or confirm this advice.


    Tim
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    ecu upgrade

    a question for the gurus, can the d2a ecu be retrofitted to the earlier d2 thus allowing easier remapping or chipping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason789 View Post
    Hello Disco EMU,

    DTUK do a chip out of the UK.
    Thanks Jason

    Just had a look at their website ... looks like a well set-up company. What did they charge for postage ... 'cause the system is around $550au which seems very reasonable.
    Has anyone also on AULRO got a DTUK system?

    C

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