Posted this in the technical chatter, thought it might interest some people here, will try to be brief : went to start TD5, just click, click, then start, would start every 3 or 4 goes. Got the son to turn the key, saw a flash of electricity in the area of the starter motor [ short to earth] found the small wire which fits the clip on the solenoid was not properly insulated at the female clip, cleaned @ insulated same, pulled the relays for the ignition system, found oil under the relays, just enough to short between the relay prongs, [ dirty engine oil, it seemed] cleaned the entire engine bay fuse box, also cleaned the red plug for the ECU [small amount of oil], TD5 starts first go, @ may be my imagination , but seems to drive better as well. The LR is the only vehicle I know to have an oil leak in the fuse box! Gotta luv 'em Bob