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    Arrow BAS VNT - ECU tune not required

    I thought some might find this interesting. I am currently in the process of ordering a VNT kit from Bell Auto Services. I have been dealing with Pete and asking plenty of questions regarding the VNT kit.

    I was under the assumption that I would have to purchase his tune to suit the VNT as well, however, after examining the modifications to my vehicle, Pete has informed me that he believes it would provide little additional gain, and would not be worth the added expense of the retune - very rare you find a salesman telling you not to buy more of their products!

    He justifies this on the basis that their VNT kit "is designed to work on all cars tuned by anyone or even left standard."

    For anyone interested, my vehicle currently has the following modifications:
    Serck Motorsports Fast Road Automatic Intercooler (supplied by TD5
    Alive/Alive Tuning)
    Silicone intercooler hoses
    EGR removed
    TD5Inside ECU tune applied by an Australian tuner
    TD5 Alive/Alive Tuning Turbo Booster Box
    TD5 Alive/Alive Tuning MAF sensor (due to the OEM MAF not being able to handle the airflow)
    Currently running 20psi of boost
    I intend to fit an IRB Developments two channel box to replace the Alive
    Tuning Booster Box and MAF sensor. Just waiting on IRB Developments to
    respond to me, they haven't been replying...

    Based on this, Pete advised "You have all the mods needed already yo fit the turbo and spending more on changing tuning won't gain you that much as you will already have a st2 tune inside."

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    Thanks for that. Apart from your Alive intercooler all my mods appear to be that same as yours. Should my turbo ever fail I will definately be upgrading to a VNT turbo. I have driven numerous vehicles with these fitted and they are a totally different feel to a regular turbo. Thanks for the info.

    Dave

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    Hi twr7cx, I just received this past week a vnt from BAS along with their TD5 Boost Box as a kit.

    I have also ordered from Allisport a new intercooler and the redesigned cast manifold to go with the vnt from bas.

    Add to all of this new silicone intercooler hoses and I am hoping for a much better vehicle to drive and tow with!

    I was thinking of selling the 99 Disco 2 but after spending so much fixing things that have worn out or failed for various reasons over the last two years I thought ahh what the hell, lets see what else I can get out of it or improve upon. Besides what else would I buy?

    I will let you know how it goes once all of the bits get here and are installed.

    Cheers
    Mikey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    the redesigned cast manifold to go with the vnt from bas.
    Got any more information on this?

    I intended to install my VNT today, but got drunk last night, didn't get my car home until midday and then the engine was hot so couldn't work on it.

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    I have been in a truck with one of these vnt's and I was super impressed. Way different to my td5 even though it has quite an aggressive tune. I think I will be getting one next time something major goes wrong with the truck or if we ever get a camper.

    Cheers

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    Redesigned cast manifold

    Twr7cx, if you go to www.allisport.com and click on uprated turbos you wiil see the pictures I have posted here. Bit more info on their website.

    I was only looking on their site for an intercooler after talking with Pete from Bas and came across the different manifolds they are/have developed.

    I cannot remember how to insert a picture from my hard drive so I have added them as an attachment.

    Cheers, hope your head does not hurt too much from last night.

    Mikey

    Well what do you know the pictures turned out fine.

    I forgot to mention one of the pictures is of the Stainless manifold they have/are developing and trialling.
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    So are the manifolds from Allisport or BAS? What sort of dollars? Did you get the cast one? What's the advantage? Looks very similair in design to the original one (as opposed to being tuned length - e.g. when each cylinders pipe is equal length), just a bit less sharp on the bends, but pipes look similair sizes and still mergers the 1 and 2 cylinders and 4 and 5 together first, then merges everything in the center.

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    I am getting the cast manifold from Allisport at a cost of 400 pounds, which is less than normal, maybe because I am also getting an intercooler from them as well.

    What the final cost in Aussie dollars, delivered will be is still unknown at this stage. Probably will not know until it shows on the credit card statement.

    Benefit is better flow but certainly should all but eliminate the manifold warping problem. Time will tell I guess. The proof is in the pudding, as the saying goes.

    Cheers

    Mikey

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    any pics of the inside/bottom of the stainless one?
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    Pedro, the only picture I have seen of the stainless manifold is the one I posted. You could always send Allisport an email. From memory I think they said the stainless one was cheaper than the cast one.

    I went the cast route because they have them on the shelf and are a proven product, well in the UK at least, I am led to believe.

    Mikey

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