2002 V8 ES will i be upset at no CDL

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Originally Posted by garrycol

To this you will also need to ad a linkage/lever/actuating kit.

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True, but not really that relevant if you are comparing purchase cost of pre-2003 vehicles.

An aftermarket lever (ignoring the butt ugly diy ghetto linkages) will cost around $400-450. If you buy a 1999-2001MY D2 with CDL internals you add the linkage/lever and you are done, and you've spent $450. A late 2001 or 2002MY D2 without CDL internals requires the purchase of the linkage/lever plus the CDL internals. You spend $450 plus $460 and fitting costs. The difference between the two is the CDL internals plus any fitting costs.

Looking at it from a different angle: Does the 2002 D2 purchase price plus $1000 get you into a D2a of similar mileage?

Like this for example:

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...sort=~Odometer


cheers
Paul

For the 2002 D2 you may also need the transfer case/trans wiring loom from an earlier model as LR deleted the cdl indicator switch wiring.

I'm sure some will 100% disagree but I've been perfectly happy with my 2001 V8, sans CDL. It tackles sand fine (dunes, beach, towing etc) , and has done some pretty hairy stuff with stock tyres etc - incl some that a professional tour guides Nissan Patrol (raised, tyres, you know the type) got stuck on. It has ACE which really helps with axle articulation but is otherwse stock.

I'm sure that in extreme conditions the CDL might be worth having but for stuff most tackle 99% of the time don't worry about it...

Basically it's got me in and out of places that I was distinctly worried about no matter what was between the engine and wheels....

FF

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Originally Posted by OffTrack

True, but not really that relevant if you are comparing purchase cost of pre-2003 vehicles.

An aftermarket lever (ignoring the butt ugly diy ghetto linkages) will cost around $400-450. If you buy a 1999-2001MY D2 with CDL internals you add the linkage/lever and you are done, and you've spent $450. A late 2001 or 2002MY D2 without CDL internals requires the purchase of the linkage/lever plus the CDL internals. You spend $450 plus $460 and fitting costs. The difference between the two is the CDL internals plus any fitting costs.

Looking at it from a different angle: Does the 2002 D2 purchase price plus $1000 get you into a D2a of similar mileage?

Like this for example:

2004 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY (No Badge) 03MY SUV Private Cars For Sale in NSW - carsales.com.au


cheers
Paul

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comparing model spec no you wont with the same price range looking upward of $18000 for similar kms

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Originally Posted by Freddofrog42

I'm sure some will 100% disagree but I've been perfectly happy with my 2001 V8, sans CDL. It tackles sand fine (dunes, beach, towing etc) , and has done some pretty hairy stuff with stock tyres etc - incl some that a professional tour guides Nissan Patrol (raised, tyres, you know the type) got stuck on. It has ACE which really helps with axle articulation but is otherwse stock.

I'm sure that in extreme conditions the CDL might be worth having but for stuff most tackle 99% of the time don't worry about it...

Basically it's got me in and out of places that I was distinctly worried about no matter what was between the engine and wheels....

FF

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I have to fully agree, my disco is stock & has no problem keeping up with the lifted & locked vehicles.
The CDL would be useful if there was a failure of the electronics or a broken diff or similar–something that has never happened in the 6 years of ownership. It's a very impressive system.

I too have ACE, no CDL and have driven some very extreme off-road tracks with wheel lifts, rocky climbs, mud descents and even deep snow & ice. A recent adventure trip to Levuka included a Nissan with All Terrains and a Toyota with a 4" lift & All Terrains, I have 18", Good Year road tyres with low tread and kept up on all but a steep climb with black mud, only the Toyota made it due to new full tread A/Ts (I have video evidence :)).

If there was a mod that was required its a new front bumper, not a CDL. Only because on some of the extreme off-roading the bumper gets bashed due to being too low, this is only on extreme tracks though.

Don't be put off by no CDL. :)

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Originally Posted by Banjo_pluker

comparing model spec no you wont with the same price range looking upward of $18000 for similar kms

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Indeed, but given the choice between a 2002 ES and a povpack D2a I'd pick the D2a every time.

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Originally Posted by diesel

Don't be put off by no CDL. :)

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Sorry, I think you should be put off by no CDL:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-...ml#post1189077

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Originally Posted by Banjo_pluker

comparing model spec no you wont with the same price range looking upward of $18000 for similar kms

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For sure, thats what ive found too, 18k for a nice HSE or low SE etc

I guess it depends on your budget but I think if you look around you will find a similar priced car with CDL

For what it's worth, I had the exact same 2002 V8 D2 with 18inch wheels and road tyres. The car was in perfect condition but had no CDL. Owned it for 3.5 years and loved it, but there were many a times when I had to take the easy (chicken) track because I couldn't make it, due to no CDL. Traction control only got me so far and unfortunately, left me hanging one too many times!

So, 5 months ago, sold the 2002 D2 and bought a 2004 D2a TD5 in perfect condition with ultra low km's + CDL. WOW, what a difference. I'm SUPER happy now that I've got CDL, and so far, there's not a lot I can't get through! I would not go back to no CDL now, that's for sure! I think until you've experienced the difference between CDL and no CDL, you can't appreciate the difference it makes!

I thought the '02 D2 was good, and I loved that car, but NOW, '04, D2a - that's AMORE!!! :D CDL RULES!!!!!

That's my 2 cents anyway! Cheers.

Ernie.