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    Sheared wheel nuts

    Hi all,
    Own a D2a which the wife uses as the daily drive, well today she asks me to look at the front N/S wheel I notice that one of the wheel nuts is missing and on closer inspection find that the acutal bolt has sheared Decided to check the others same wheel and two of the others just break off with a turn of the wheel brace.
    Obviously will need to buy a hub assembly but was wondering what could have caused this and has any one else had it happen, no serious off roading wheels were last off about 18 months ago but running 265's AT'S they have been on around 2 yrs.
    Was on the highway saturday doing 100+ shudder to think what could have happened.

    Cheers.

    Dave

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    Probably over tensioning the bolts, tyre fitters rattle gun springs to mind

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    Under tightening will do it too, due to metal fatigue. Correctly tightened nuts or you are at risk. Light oil on the nuts when tightening helps a lot.

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    Do you have D2/P38a wheels fitted?

    If not, and they're not supported by the hub, this can weaken the studs.
    Scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Under tightening will do it too, due to metal fatigue. Correctly tightened nuts or you are at risk. Light oil on the nuts when tightening helps a lot.
    I've always been taught that oil on the wheel nuts is a big no-no, as the extra lubrication causes them to self-loosen far more readily than otherwise.
    Just my opinion, others disagree

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    Hi scouse,
    when I bought the car it had 19" wheels with low profiles on, bought it because of its great condition and got a set of standard 16" rover alloys after a couple of weeks it handled like crap with the 19"on.That was over 2 yrs ago wonder if the damage had already been done

    Cheers

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex 110 View Post
    I've always been taught that oil on the wheel nuts is a big no-no, as the extra lubrication causes them to self-loosen far more readily than otherwise.
    Just my opinion, others disagree
    I support the other lot..
    I use nickle antisieze but if its not available a drop of engine oil on the threads and a wipe with a damped rag on the chamfer of the nut then up to 100NM or 100ftLB depending on what rim its on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex 110 View Post
    I've always been taught that oil on the wheel nuts is a big no-no, as the extra lubrication causes them to self-loosen far more readily than otherwise.
    Just my opinion, others disagree
    Lack of lube will cause the thread or the mounting face of the nut to bind up before the torque applied can create the correct tension in the stud. It is this tension that clamps the wheel to the hub. I have been lubing wheel nuts since I was a lad, I once had endless trouble with mag wheel nuts picking up alloy out of the wheels. A quick spray of CRC or similar lets you apply torque without it being wasted on friction and metal damage.

    What loosens wheel nuts is cyclic forces from the wheel turning and the wheel moving a tiny amount each rev on the hub. Only the correct stud tension will stop this cyclic force. Lube the nuts and you will achieve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse View Post
    Do you have D2/P38a wheels fitted?

    If not, and they're not supported by the hub, this can weaken the studs.
    There is on going debate about this as well,there are many wheels around that are not supported by the hub with no issues.

    The D2 studs are pretty heavy duty,much heavier than many other similar type vehicles.

    in fact the D3/4 have thinner wheel studs than D1/2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    There is on going debate about this as well,there are many wheels around that are not supported by the hub with no issues.

    The D2 studs are pretty heavy duty,much heavier than many other similar type vehicles.

    in fact the D3/4 have thinner wheel studs than D1/2.
    I haven't seen the problem on a D2 but I have seen pictures on here of it happening to a D3 which is why I thought I'd ask the question.
    Scott

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