Assuming you didn't install it then did they put a strip of grease around the lip to stop dust coming in, and the grease has separated into oil?
Just got around to cleaning up my D2 after spending the Melbourne Cup long weekend up in the High Country. We base camped in the Wonnangatta Valley and did a lot of tracks in the surrounding hills - a magnificent time was had with lots of hard driving. After swabbing down the bodywork i next got in and washed the dust out the engine bay and afterwards got on with checking the fluids and then the air box filter. At this point i should say that i have a snorkel and a new airbox filter was installed before the trip however when checking the filter we found it not only contaminated with dust but also oil - the bizarre aspect of this is that the oily dust was on the bottom fluted side of the filter - the snorkel side. The top side of the filter (MAF side) was looking as new. I could understand oil contamination on the MAF side because the crankcase breather pipe enters the air intake after the MAF - but on the snorkel side, well that's bizarre!
Can anybody throw light on this.......
onebob
Assuming you didn't install it then did they put a strip of grease around the lip to stop dust coming in, and the grease has separated into oil?
I can't explain it but mine does the same thing.
Yup! - i installed the filter.
I have a theory that may be way off beam but here goes.....
When you turn off your TD5 after some hours of hard work doing what it's designed to do - what do you have? .... you have a hot engine with no cooling and no air intake to pull the crankcase fumes into the engine for combustion. The fume will continue to be present whilst the engine and oil is still very hot and the fumes will rise to the highest part of the engine and congregate in the air intake hose and be contained by the filter box at one end and the turbo at the other. As the engine cools the fume cools, gets heavier, and settles in the lowest portion of the air intake ie the airbox and then condenses in the filter.
It makes sense to mealthough I'm happy to be wrong
onebob
It's contaminants from the air, from being in traffic or following other cars, trucks etc. They burn oils from the blowby or diesel etc, this becomes a fume out of the exhaust and floats in the air. Along you come and this air gets drawn into your intake.
The disco air filter is small by comparison to other 4wds and as a consequence it has a small cross section and they high flow of air is more concentrated through the filter.
The filter condenses the fumes and hence the oily type of stain on the outside of the filter. This happens quickly because of the small size.
Leave it long enough and it becomes a black tarry scum.
Remember you're breathing this rubbish in too!
Cheers
Kev
Kev
2005 TDV6HSE D3
2006 V8HSE D3
99 TD5 D2 (Gone)
97 RR Autobiography original (Gone)
yup! i'll go with that..... trust me to not see the obvious, although my missus wouldn't be surprised
onebob
The oil laden air must only occur at snorkel level if that is the case as I'm yet to see any evidence of intake side oil residue in the air box on my non-snorkel equipped D2.
It's probably something to do with pressure variations in the intake caused by the snorkel. I'm assuming you all use Safari or similar design snorkels. The forward facing head on the Safari is going to cause far greater pressure variation than stock, and you might even find the large black air heater attached to the front guard is causing a chimney effect when parked with the motor off.
I'd be interested to know if this phenomena occurs with the Mantec snorkel as the rear facing intake and plenum hidden inside the guard would eliminate these two factors. If the Mantec shows the same oiling issue then the cause of the problem will be something else.
cheers
Paul
Like Offtrack I never saw oil on the intake side of the filter BEFORE i installed the Snorkel.
Its been installed only 6 months - and mine is a MANTEC.
onebob
Last edited by onebob; 20th November 2012 at 06:39 AM. Reason: clarification
So it's got to be the fact that there is a snorkel installed, rather than the type of snorkel.
The obvious difference between stock and snorkel is the volume of air contained in the intake tract. Doing a bit of a googling, it seems that suddenly stopping flow of a fluid (like air) causes a pressure build up, followed by a reversal of flow. It seems likely that the additional volume of air in the snorkel will cause a greater pressure build up, and a larger reversal of air flow through the filter. It's not likely to be a huge amount of flow but possibly enough to cause the oil to wick through the filter?
In my defence for my above post, it's something I read on a k&n website some time ago, I looked for it last night but can't find it.
I have a snorkel but I haven't noticed it happening yet, well certainly not to any degree of notice anyway.
In my surf it is quite noticeable and it doesn't have a snorkel. The engine breather on the surf is down by the turbo which is about 4' from the air filter and the intake is absolutely dry.
As the surf filter is a large round filter, I tend to just rotate it and blow it out, but it does have the oily tarry scum showing on it in places over time.
The disco filter gets changed more often being so small, so maybe doesn't show as much.
Logic also dictates, no oil on inside, only on outside, no oil input from car, so must come in from outside? Until someone shows me how my engine is oiling up my own filter, without leaving any oil drips in the pipe or inside the air box, I'm going with the info from k&n.
Cheers
Kev![]()
Kev
2005 TDV6HSE D3
2006 V8HSE D3
99 TD5 D2 (Gone)
97 RR Autobiography original (Gone)
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