Thread: Front recovery points - what's the worst that could happen?

I once snatched my disco out of sand using the ARB bull bar snatch point. I was pretty stuck, there was nothing else to snatch off. It did work, but never again.

As soon as I got back to Perth I ordered some Troutbeck front recovery points and put them on.
The bull bar points were elongated after the recovery, plus I reckon you could easily damage your bull bar or worse, some one.

I'll try get a picture up for you of the damaged recovery point and the replacement Troutbeck ones.

I fitted these 4x4 engineering points.
Mounts are only as strong as the hardware securing them.
I showed the ARB pic to a bloke at ARB and he said they were not thiers.Cheers
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Originally Posted by Tombie

Hey Muppet...

That "crush can/ARB" line is BS

It's been explained at length before..

IIRC it's been debated at length before, without a clear cut and dry yes or no response
Couldn't find the really extensive thread in which it was covered.
But still, the eyelets aren't designed for snatch recoveries.
A dedicated and rated set is still the way to go IMHO
Cheers
Muppet

So
A bar winch is good for a 6000kg winch recovery but not a snatch one

My solution is never use a snatch strap. I'll pull out the winch and recover myself first.

Originally Posted by northiam

So
A bar winch is good for a 6000kg winch recovery but not a snatch one

A winch is a slow steady pull.
Snatch recoveries usually involve some shock loading.
Perhaps Tombie knows the thread explaining it, as I'm just going off memory here.
Like Cluba, I much prefer to use my winch than a snatch strap
It's not so much the issue of it being on the cans.
It's that the eyelets are not designed to cope with the shock loads associated with snatching.
Plenty of reading material out there, I'll duck into my local ARB store later today for an official yay or nay if you'd like

My LR specialist says that simply replacing the tie down brackets with strengthened and rated recovery points onto the chassis rail isn't sufficient as the chassis connection point is also not strong enough and can rip out. I've had the connection point on the chassis strengthened too.

Originally Posted by Mundy

My LR specialist says that simply replacing the tie down brackets with strengthened and rated recovery points onto the chassis rail isn't sufficient as the chassis connection point is also not strong enough and can rip out. I've had the connection point on the chassis strengthened too.

Sounds like a good point but the srs system works on a known deceleration rate built into the srs computer. The rate is engineered into the cars panel and body including chassis rails. If this rate is altered by addition of bars (hence bars having to be airbag compliant) or changes to the chassis/body (such as strengthening the chassis around the mounts as you said) this can alter the information the srs system needs to safely deploy the airbags.

Was that strengthening engineered and tested to comply with the srs system? If not, you could be held responsible if someone gets injured in a crash.

If the chassis is too soft in the first place, this is probably by design for impact and crush in the event of a collision.

It may be that what you have done is completely safe, but I'd want it in writing from an approved certified engineer first, ......

Sticking to winching sounds like a fair choice......