Fossicker
In the short time that I have been a member of the forum I have watched just how helpful everyone is and also assisting others with knowledge if needed. I like the ethic and culture of the site so thought that I might put up a post seeking some help.
I have bought a Discovery 2 2002 (300kms) which has some problems with oil underneath. Certainly know that work will be needed. Given that I paid $6000 in the end with all the extras I shouldn't be too much out of pocket if it all went to crap. The missus says I bought a Lemon. I don't want her to not like landrovers. She wants an amarok and reminds me of this.
From discussing with the seller this is what his take of the status for oil leaks. If someone could assist with deciphering what he says would go a long way to either agreeing I bought a lemon or just a good price car that needs some maintenance and still comes out a not a bad price.
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This is what the seller has told me.
Fuel Pressure Reg is leaking on the right hand side of the motor (as you’re sitting in the vehicle). Depending on whether you’re comfortable doing the work yourself…it can be a little difficult to get to. I would suggest a universal jointed, long-reach socket/ratchet setup to get to it.
Post resolution of the FPR above. You may have a sweat coming from the bell housing (ie, clutch / transfer box input area)…which you should leave unless you’re keen to replace at least the entire clutch pack, release bearing, input and main seal on either side…BIG JOB. Be prepared if going in there…to budget for a new Dual Mass Flywheel also. The parts alone would be a little over 1k (for genuine parts only…which I recommend). Labour could cost up to $400 I think on that job, some would be less. If on a tight budget, you would have to go for at least a new release bearing, 2 seals and Valeo Clutch kit…probably approx $400-$500 all up parts + labour.
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What does have me concerned is that the oil that the discovery dropped after a cool night in canberra showed a thin light brown oil which looks to me to be coming from around the joint of the bell housing. The oil in the engine is the black you would expect so I am assuming that these are not one of the same.
Any assistance in steering me in the right direction to get it resolved and deciphering the email from the seller would be great.
Regards
Tony
YarnMaster
The brown oil will be diesel leaking from the FPR. It tends to drip from the bolt heads at the bottom of the bell housing.
Best thing to do is sort the FPR as a first step and get the engine clean so you can see what is leaking, if anything.
Cheers
Paul
Fossicker
Hi Paul,
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply.
From the sellers email description of the FDR I located a copy of the Discovery Workshop manual and printed off the pages relating to the FDR. Noticed that there was a very good explanation on fixing the problem on another site that specifically related to Discovery 2s.
I must have laid under the car for a good 20 minutes trying to see where the oil (diesel) came from. Your saying that the drip normally drops of the bell housing appears to be the case. Not being a person who normally works on my car (I do oils & filters though) chasing an oil leak does have red herrings.
Will order the kit and have a go at tackling the job.
Having bought the car in NSW and transferring it to ACT it has to have a road worthy inspection at a garage. I will ask them to have a closer look at the other sections too. They said if I give the motor a good clean down underneath they can then have a good look. The motor underneath is really quite clean apart from the drips.
Regards
Tony
Wizard
There are some good hints on how to perform the FPR replacement on AULRO. For example, a recent post talks about how it is easier to undo the bottom bolt from within the wheel arch. Use the google search function at the bottom of the screen to search for FPR / fuel pressure regulator.
Master
SupporterThis leak does sound like the Fuel pressure regulator,a job that is awkward but quite doable by the average diy.Another area that leaks and gives the same symptom is oil running down the back of the head from a leaking cam cover gasket[half moon section]This oil is usually black and can give the impression of a leaking main seal,leading to clutch replacement/main seal etc.Worth checking before coughing up $$.
So Tony, from what you've described, and the responses given, doesn't sound like a lemon. Not even vaguely yellow coloured.
Fossicker
Thank you again for the replies guys,
The information has been of great value and you have given me the confidence to get in and fix the FPR. I have ordered the kit online from the UK and delivered is only AUD $21.00
Receiving some good feedback about not buying a lemon has given me a bit of confidence too and whilst it looks like a bit of oil dropped on the driveway it can be fixed up. The missus might not get the amarok too soon.
Will certainly get back to you guys once I have tackled the job. Please keep in touch.
Regards
Tony
Fossicker
Guys,
would I expect the FPR to still drip if I haven't moved or driven the car in two days?
Tony
YarnMaster
Probably - the system is pressurised to 5 bar when the pump is running and it could take a while for pressure to dissipate. If the o-rings are shot it might not even take pressure for pooled diesel to continue leaking.Originally Posted by oxley2903
The only way you can be 100% is to check for yourself. Pull the engine cover off (it's 3 x 13mm bolts), grab a torch and have a look and feel around the hoses and underneath the regulator body. If it is wet and greasy and smells like diesel you'll have a definitive answer - it should be pretty obvious if the reg is leaking. You might be able to see wet diesel on the block if the gasket is leaking.
cheers
Paul
ChatterBox
Sure doesnt sound like a lemon to me.
The FPR is common to fix at this age and you may experience dripping from the bell housing for a few days after fixing it until it drys out.
I wouldnt be concerned with the clutch unless it is showing signs of failing, i.e slipping.
If the 300kms has been without having a clutch replacement, it has done very well and has probably been a country car or used mainly for long trips.
In any case clutches are simply maintenance and not lemon material.
The seller has been honest with you regarding the points you mentioned and the estimated $ are pretty well right.
If there is nothing else but these 2 points you seem to have bought well.
Put up some pics when you get a chance.
cheers
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