Milford Cargo Barrier Measurement

**twodoors** · 27th July 2013, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by cjc_td5

Because with a half height barrier, you are relying on the seat catches to restrain a load moving forward. It is my understanding that seat catches are not generally designed to restrain loads behind them. In my opinion, a half height barrier should only be used where the lower area is fully restrained by a (bolted down) drawer system etc, otherwise use a full height cargo barrier.

Cheers,

Mmm in basic non scientific terms....i'm intrigued then as to what dynamically small but incredibly heavy item that it is you are interested in preventing from accelerating over a maximum distance of about 80cm that is going to cause seat catches to fail in such a catastophic way....

Any movement against a half height barrier base would be spread across the whole width of the rear seats....

If the impact forces are that great i would suggest that what might break free from behind is the least of your worries compared to what u have just hit to cause these forces....

James

**bell1975** · 27th July 2013, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by twodoors

Mmm in basic non scientific terms....i'm intrigued then as to what dynamically small but incredibly heavy item that it is you are interested in preventing from accelerating over a maximum distance of about 80cm that is going to cause seat catches to fail in such a catastophic way....

Any movement against a half height barrier base would be spread across the whole width of the rear seats....

If the impact forces are that great i would suggest that what might break free from behind is the least of your worries compared to what u have just hit to cause these forces....

James

Perhaps a 100 Ah deep cycle battery that isn't fixed to anything?

**cjc_td5** · 27th July 2013, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by twodoors

Mmm in basic non scientific terms....i'm intrigued then as to what dynamically small but incredibly heavy item that it is you are interested in preventing from accelerating over a maximum distance of about 80cm that is going to cause seat catches to fail in such a catastophic way....

Any movement against a half height barrier base would be spread across the whole width of the rear seats....

If the impact forces are that great i would suggest that what might break free from behind is the least of your worries compared to what u have just hit to cause these forces....

James

My comment was more in reference to cargo barrier vs no cargo barrier. With no cargo barrier, the seats have to fully restrain any load in the rear. A large mass of cargo (i.e. several items) generates a large momentum which has to be stopped in a crash. Additionally, if the seats to do fail in any way, the only thing then restraining them are the seatbelts which unfortunately have a body squashed between them and the seats.

A half height cargo barrier will only stop items coming over the seats, not help the seats restain any cargo sitting behind the seats themselves.

Anyway, just my observations. Everyone assesses their risks differently and will make their own informed decisions.

Cheers,

**twodoors** · 27th July 2013, 11:11 PM

Well...if someone was so stupid to have a 100ah battery just 'floating around' their boot?...they deserve all that comes their way!!...

**twodoors** · 27th July 2013, 11:25 PM

What u need to do is put into perspective is the load u are talking about... This bulk load will not be pushing on the absolute top of the seat... Which of course is where the greatest leverage is for its folding momentum.... The bulk weight will be pushing forward on this mach speed capable D2... At part of the strongest section....the base and also against the bulk of the seat squib which is anchored...

Having had a d2 that went head to head at speed with a tree and nothing came forward / breached the 1/2 height barrier...

Again it was the front end that was terminal.....

**cjc_td5** · 28th July 2013, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by schnitzel

Wondering if someone can help me. I'm trying to plan the layout of my cargo space (particularly around my fridge). I need to know how much depth in the cargo space (Disco 2a) I will lose by putting a Milford cargo barrier in.

For example, what is the distance from the back of the top edge of the rear seat to the back of the cargo barrier inside the cargo space.

I'm imagining (hoping) you lose about 40mm but if someone could verify this for me (and maybe even take a photo with one seat dropped down and the other still locked vertical) that would help out immensely.

Basically - I need every mm I can squeeze and am weighing up a "half cargo barrier" that goes from the top of the seat to the ceiling if the milford barrier intrudes too far back into the cargo space.

Thanks in advance. Adam

Hi Adam.
Further to my previous response, at the top of the seat on the left hand side (where my fridge is located), there is about 60mm from the back of the seat to the rear face (mesh) of the cargo barrier.

What fridge are you trying to fit in the cargo area? I have a Autofridge (39l I think) that sits in a ventilation box and on a slide.

The box fits slugly behind the cargo barrier with not much room to spare, but achieving the required 3cm clearance around the fridge for ventilation. I have mine fixed to the barrier to stop the fridge over-balancing when out on the slide. The shelf on the right can be removed depending what is being carried at the time.

Cheers,

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