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    Can trailing arm bushes be worn but appear good?

    I'm battling to find a solution for my Discovery 2's nervous behaviour on roads with even gentle sloping or depressions. Good shocks and springs (OME 2 inch lift setup). It was great to drive 20,000km ago with the same setup/tyres etc. Steering box has no play. I've put in a new steering damper, new poly panhard bushes, had a wheel alignment. The Watts linkage is all good. New LR sway bar D rubbers. The trailing arm bushes all look good, but a pry bar can make them flex which I'm guessing is normal. I'm wondering if these bushes might look good but are actually degraded in terms of the rubber compressibility etc? Any other suggestions would be great. All ball joints are good as are the wheel bearings. I put it on axle stands and tested the front end out. I've tried various tyre pressures. Fronts running from 26pound up to 34pound made no difference really. i have noticed a clunk or two with articulation when coming out of some fairly radical beach tracks with massive staggered wheel holes(3 feet deep) from drivers using too high pressure. I'm going to put the GoPro under it soon to look at the trailing arms. I did the same previously with the Watts linkage. It's generally worse at 110kmh when it decides to quiet quickly divert toward the roads edge. This requires some focus to bring it back and makes driving tiring.

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    what is your tyre size? Sometimes a wider tyre can "tramline" although you said the same setup worked b4. Yes rubber bushes can degrade over time, although generally not that much. It diverting quickly sounds as if a bush is the culprit on the front arms, it gets settled in 1 position, you adjust the steering to suit, then it hits a bump or track depression in the road which alters the position in the bush and off it goes b4 you can correct it. Also It could be in the rear trailing arm bushes. This behaviour is also known as "axle steer" where the angle of the solid axle suddenly changes and thereby the direction of travel. Get a big screw driver/ podgy bar and lever the bushes, if you get any great movement they are had it.
    Cheers Scott

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    It's on 265/70r16s. It was fine on these previously, although I know wider tyres can cause tramlining. I'm starting to think it is rear axle steering,especially with the camper on the back. I can induce a rear clunk at times. I'll have a good look tomorrow. I'm guessing the tubes and bolts in the bushes could be a suspect too.

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    Any chance it might need an adjustable panhard after installing the lift? I recently did this to mine to realign the front end axle with the rear after a 2 inch lift

    Bronson

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronson View Post
    Any chance it might need an adjustable panhard after installing the lift? I recently did this to mine to realign the front end axle with the rear after a 2 inch lift

    Bronson
    It was working completely fine with the current setup a few months ago. I'm thinking bushes as it went bad after some high articulation stuff in a hilly area. Checked the price of LR bushes and they are around $60 each. 12 bushes is up around the $700 mark. I might go for some Allmakes variety if need be. My brother changed the trailing arm bushes in his Patrol last week. Some looked good but ended up being too soft. He had wandering issues which have now totally gone.

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    it can happen but there is usually a telltale if you know what to look for.

    have you checked more obvious things first like the tyre pressure and brakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coops71 View Post
    It was working completely fine with the current setup a few months ago. I'm thinking bushes as it went bad after some high articulation stuff in a hilly area. Checked the price of LR bushes and they are around $60 each. 12 bushes is up around the $700 mark. I might go for some Allmakes variety if need be. My brother changed the trailing arm bushes in his Patrol last week. Some looked good but ended up being too soft. He had wandering issues which have now totally gone.
    May be you should research the super pro bushes, a much better bush and can be had a hell of a lot cheaper than $700 from the UK.

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    If your D2 is tramlining, check upper and lower ball joints, and steering tie rod ends. ALSO, the wheel alignment needs to be 0 to 2mm total toe OUT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    If your D2 is tramlining, check upper and lower ball joints, and steering tie rod ends. ALSO, the wheel alignment needs to be 0 to 2mm total toe OUT.

    JC
    Been there and done that. Just checked trailing arm bushes and found the front passenger chassis end bush can be flexed along the bolt about 20mm using a pry bar. I can make the passenger front wheel move a touch by doing this. Is this normal?

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    what is the total km on your vehicle? have the Radius arm bushes ever been changed yet? When you say trailing arm do you mean the front radius arm or the rear(trailing) radius arm?

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