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    ZF 4HP22 problems and valve block rebuild link

    The auto in the D2 has been in slow decline and the adaptive pressures have just about maxed out on a couple of solenoids, which is in part due to the company who last serviced the auto leaving the magnet out of the sump. The issue has been that shifts are getting slow to complete under power and when cold the box has been hanging on to shift from 1-2. The adaptive pressures are showing this too, with the compensation pressures at maximum for 1-2 in speed range one, and for 2-3 in all speed ranges.

    As an aside I've just noticed the last logs I managed to record with the Nanocom a couple of years ago report values truncated to the nearest whole digit. The X431 iDiag records from the Autobox ECU without any fuss and gives this information to at least one decimal place, and the modulation pressure to 2 decimal places. No prizes for guessing why my Nanocom isn't getting much use these days.

    Back to topic. I'd noticed the harness behind the window switch panel was looking a bit oily and got around to pulling the console of so I could clean. Sure enough all the wiring from the Auto was coated in transmission fluid, with the white plug for the solenoid wiring revealing pools of red fluid when disconnected. I still need to clean the plug at the Auto but even cleaning the connector to the main harness as pretty much cleared up the issue with cold shifting from 1-2.

    Apparently the oil in harness is a known issue which afflicts ZF auto's fitted to BMW, Jag and Ford and is a relatively common cause of shift problems. The fix for the oil leakage is to replace the internal harness which involves dropping the valve body. I've picked up a ZF branded replacement harness with "genuine" LR parts sticker from eBay for about 25% of the current UK price so just have to bite the bullet.

    I'm thinking that a valve body overhaul could be worth the effort before I finally give in to the inevitable and replace the AB reco transmission that was in the D2 when I bought it. Note to self: Never buy a D2 that has been used to tow horse floats - even if the Auto has been replaced.

    While searching for valve body information I came across a fantastic illustrated valve block rebuild for the ZF 4HP22EH yesterday. It's been done by a .au BMW owner and has some useful links to local parts sources.

    ZF 4HP22E Valve Body Rebuild


    The tech guide the author refers to can be found here: https://www.atsg.us/atsg/bmw-porsche...c-guide-1.html The download version is $35US.

    cheers
    Paul

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    The solenoid harness is STC4782


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    I checked the transmission end of the harness and it didn't look too bad from the outside. There were no pools of trans fluid or obvious leaks, but the wires coming out the back of plug were damp with oil.

    This is the "diagnostic phone video":
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iKlf7k9X2k]4HP22 harness plug - YouTube[/ame]

    When I disconnected the plug the contacts were soaked in trans fluid, so I've given both sides a clean with isopropyl alcohol and reconnected until I get a chance to replace the harness.

    Cleaning out the connectors at both ends of the harness has made an obvious difference to the shift quality, and the box is behaving much better on the 1-2 upshift.

    The connector clean is a bit of a temporary fix, so I'm still looking at doing the solenoid harness next week.

    cheers
    Paul

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    thanks for your comments on the nanocom problem, ive posted it on their support forum to try get it fixed. (and here High/Low Range - Crossed wires or Nanocom?)

    Im posting my progress with my full rebuilt here:
    ZF4HP22 do it yourself overhaul


    Ive been trying to find out how the ecu would even know the modulation pressure as there is no pressure sensors that im aware of, and ive torn down my box/body completely, just 4 solenoids and a speed sensor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by haydent View Post

    Ive been trying to find out how the ecu would even know the modulation pressure as there is no pressure sensors that im aware of, and ive torn down my box/body completely, just 4 solenoids and a speed sensor...
    It's explained in the WSM, the ECU's calculations are based on mapped values against TPS and RPM inputs not on a sensor input:

    Shift control
    To provide the different driving characteristics for each mode of operation, the EAT ECU incorporates different shift
    maps of throttle position/engine speed. Base shift points are derived from the appropriate shift map. When a shift is
    required, the EAT ECU sends a request to the ECM for a reduction in engine torque, in order to produce a smoother
    shift. The percentage of torque reduction requested varies according to the operating conditions at the time of the
    request. When the EAT ECU receives confirmation of the torque reduction from the ECM, it then signals the shift
    solenoid valves in the gearbox to produce the shift. To further improve shift quality, the EAT ECU also signals the
    pressure regulating solenoid valve to modulate the hydraulic pressure and so control the rate of engagement and
    disengagement of the brake clutches

    With time, the components in a gearbox wear and the duration of the gear shifts tends to increase, which has an
    adverse effect on the brake clutches. To counteract this, the EAT ECU applies a pressure adaptation to each shift.
    To calculate the adaptations, the EAT ECU monitors the pressure modulation used, and time taken, for each shift. If
    a subsequent shift of the same type, in terms of throttle position and engine speed, has a longer duration, the EAT
    ECU stores an adaptation for that type of shift in a volatile memory. The adaptation is then included in future pressure
    calculations for that type of shift, to restore shift duration to the nominal.
    Discovery Td5 (2000), manual, tuned

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    Thanks, I figured this was the only option. So its an assumed pressure and would be reliant on a theoretical factory calibrated and operating transmission, and as such would not be able to indicate poor performance of any part such as hydraulic pump, valve body or filter for example.

    Similarly (and how I got onto this topic) could not be used to calibrate the modulation valve adjuster on the valve block, which is controlled by the pressure solenoid.

    What/where is WSM ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haydent View Post
    ....

    What/where is WSM ?
    work shop manual? (i.e. RAVE )

    ... I think ....
    Arthur.

    All these discos are giving me a heart attack!

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