The Disco 2 is not a rebodied RRC, even basically. The Disco 1 is.
The Disco 2 is a completely new car, admittedly of "similar" design, and very similar styling. It was produced only for a relatively short time and shares few parts with any other model, including its successor, leaving it as a potential orphan. It has very complex systems (like most modern cars) which make it wide likely to suffer complex (i.e. expensive) problems. Same situation as a P38, but mollified a bit because far more of them were sold.
Part of the general syndrome with luxury cars - those who can afford to maintain them, can afford to buy new, and usually do. So this makes them very cheap by the time they get out of warranty, and especially once they reach ten years or more in age.
This tends not to apply so much to Defenders and RRCs, as these both had very long production runs and were/are a lot easier (cheaper) to maintain.
I have recently got a Disco 2 TD5 for my son, at what I consider a reasonable price (as with any purchase of a S/H car, "reasonable" depends on condition. I would actually have preferred a D1 for the reasons given above, but I was unable to find a suitable one, and this one was too good to miss. Unlike some of the other ones I looked at!
John
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
I dont agree that the d2 is complex . I own a d1 and d2. A base model d2 is pretty simple really. They are excellent value for money. Cheers
I bought a Puma last Nov, so I gave the D2 a big detail over the Xmas break and put it up for sale from Jan to Mar... $10k neg....only one sniff & that was a no show.
With a recently rebuilt clutch, gearbox and transfer case the D2 actualy drives better around town than the Puma. So much so in fact, I'm going to keep it as a daily driver and use the Puma on the weekends & 4wd trips (I do a few).
No complaints.... but yes (in my view) the D2 market has dropped about 3-4k in the last 6 months.
Pete
1963 S2A 88 113-300 6 RAR, VTF, Vietnam.
1989 Perentie FFR 49-290 2 Sig Regt.
1989 Perentie FFR 49-390 1 MP BN.
1990 Perentie GS 50-087 5 RAR.
2013 Defender 110 Wagon, 'Snowy'.
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
Further to this thread, my wife convinced me to go take a look at the new Land Rovers in the local dealers as she's convinced the D2 is not reliable enough to do any level of travel in (and to be fair given the issues I don't blame her).
Of course I wasn't overly interested, the D2 is running fine, I know it's an older car and anything new is going to cost a small fortune.
The first shock was hers. The price of the new D4 is in the 6 figures. Score one for me.
The second shock was mine. I asked what they do with the trade ins, ie the D1 and D2's and the guy told me they have a long waiting list, which is why there are none on the lot.
So given the concern and the price drop with the D2's it seems there is still a market for them. I didn't ask the going prices, he just told me that currently when a D2 comes in, they check it to comply with LR's requirements, then call the list and it's a fairly quick and painless sale. There's something like 10-15 people on that list.
Not sure it adds much value to the thread, but I thought it interesting nonetheless.![]()
I think it all depends on where you go.
I bought an '01 TD5 base with 190,000 and a mate picked up another '01 with leather, ACE, SLS and 18's with 160,000 for $7800, whereas I've seen similar cars in used lots going for close to $20k (recently too).
A guy I met on a 4wd trip has an '03 with close to 300k on it and he paid $14500 for it this year.
I saw one on Carsales recently that was an '03 with 120,000, fully specced and with a couple of nice mods (Sahara bar, winch etc) for a stonking $29,000 and I nearly fell off my chair! You can buy a really nice D3 for that!
I think wholesalers are the place to go because they get all the trade-ins from people upgrading to new D4's.
I don't think the 2 is a completely new car. Similar to D3 to D4, Golf 5 to Golf 6.
Same chassis underneath.
After owing a D1, there are too many similarities. Rear door is the same, center console, door frames etc. although the cars don't drive the same, they do feel very different.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Discovery
Dave.
Dave.
Hi.
96 Disco 1 V8.
99 Disco 2 TD5.
LROCV.
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