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    Question Help with my td5 fuel pressure test video ? Engine Stopping

    Hi and thanks for stopping by.

    Main question related to video:


    • Does the speed at which the fuel pressure returns to 0 once the pump/ign is turned off appear ok ?
    • Any other comments on the video ?

    [ame="http://youtu.be/mh_nXRkaxME"]td5 fuel pressure test - YouTube[/ame]

    The problem as to why im testing fuel pressure, is i can be driving along and then the engine dies, it will not start for some time, or i can disconnect the battery and reconnect it and it starts right away.

    But will most likely die again when accelerated to either ~1k or ~2k rpm depending on how bad it is.

    Have had the codes read and only constant one is (when its not starting): Topside Switch Failed Pre Injection

    Thanks

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    Oil

    Check for oil in the harness plugs to engine ECU the red one
    may have oil passing from injector harness via engine loom to
    the plug if oil is bad the ECU can get damaged with oil topside fault
    will show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotsD2 View Post
    Check for oil in the harness plugs to engine ECU the red one
    may have oil passing from injector harness via engine loom to
    the plug if oil is bad the ECU can get damaged with oil topside fault
    will show.
    yeah, ive previously replaced the loom several months back, and checked the ecu plugs and opened up the ecu, as it was idling rough.

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    unfortunately that fault code in 99% of cases means that you need another(good) ECU or get this one repaired... with this fault the ECU actually cuts the feed to the injectors that's why your engine is cutting out...i had it myself that's how i know

    did you measure the pressure at the FPR? cos normally there it must stay under pressure if the ignition is off

    take off the cover of the main relay(R9 engine bay) and watch it when the symptom occures...if it opens when the engine stops get another ECU

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    pressure measured at input of fpr and does appear to drop off rapidly compared with another video online.

    That's a good idea to check the relay like that. I suspect the ecu too, but the mechanic thinks the fuel pump.

    Thanks for the input. As you can get knock off fuel pumps cheap enough these days we are trying that as my current one is noisy. And if that doesn't work will try ecu.

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    you must fit the gauge instead of the fuel temp sensor in the FPR...then the pressure must not drop instantly... as long as the pump delivers 4 bar in action imo it's good enough, it's normal for the pressure to drop on the pump's HP outlet when the pump stops

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    Ok so is there some sort of non return valve in there that keeps it pressurized. ?

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    on later modells there is a non return valve in the filter head's rear inner pipe...but the system is built so as to keep the pressure steady in the rail when the ignition is off that's why the measurement is relevant where the sensor is, watch carefully the scheme and you'll figure it out
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    i just ordered an ecu off ebay MSB101192 ,should match my 01 auto td5. will try putting the pressure sensor in the temp sensor to see if any difference. do you know if i need any diagnostics to install the ecu, or can i just swap it over ?

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    Injectors

    Injector codes will be needed to set up the new ECM
    You will need nanocom or some similar tester to do this
    you could be able to get info from the old ECM if its was
    programmed correctly.
    Remove cam cover and read injector codes for 100% correct
    numbers.

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